Gas Stunning Birds

FarmrGirl

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Has anyone looked into the Controlled Atmosphere System (CAS) for poultry http://www.canadianpoultrymag.com/content/view/867/? I would like to build my own for small scale poultry processing (50 or less birds at a time). Anyone have a plan for something like this?

I did try Argon gas and a clear rubbermaid tub once. I could fit 3 broilers in the tub (turned upside down over the birds), then I had a hose duct taped to a hole I drilled at the top and pumped Argon from a tank I rented at at welding supply store. I imagine that the gas didn't come out fast enough to dispace the oxygen because the chickens didn't even look a little bit sleepy after about a minute or so of quietly sitting in the tub. I also tried helium but used a whole tank (the little ones you get at Walmart) without effect. Maybe CO would be better? I know CO2 causes a panic response (based on something I read, not my own experiment).

Honestly, I don't have any trouble with my chickens since I use the cones and find they're pretty calm about going from the catch cage into the cone. It's my Muscovy and my Geese that are a concern. They absolutey need to be stunned first because they take a long time to pass out after the bleed-out cuts are made and I've had them climb right out of the cones and march off across the barnyard. I just don't have it in me to hit them on the head to stun them. First, they don't sit still for that business and second, it just seems kind of mean - especially if the first strike isn't effective
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I've been chopping their heads off - not very easy with the Muscovy. The whole thing is very stressful for the bird and me.

I really need a better way before spring harvest. I'd like to try the CAS and then as a back-up try the "broomstick dislocation" method... need some advice about that one also.
 
Are your cones deep enough to put something over them (a concrete block or something?) to keep them from getting back out?

That said, you could always put them in the garage and leave the car running....

-DB
 
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That pithing thing requires a special (and expensive) tool. My grandma used to dislocate their spine uses a broomstick laid over the neck behind the head - you put a foot on each side of the stick and pull up hard and quick on the birds body. I've never seen it done but it sounds really quick and relatively painless. Don't know if anyone has experience with that - lessons learned and whatnot.
 
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My cones are deep enough but Muscovy are strong. I guess I just have a problem with the struggle they put up... the chickens are so easy and in a couple of seconds they just "go to sleep" in the cone.

Hey, don't think I didn't consider hooking a hose up to my car exhaust... last harvest I was at my wits end!
 
I've read about it before. The systems I've seen marketed use CO2 with a distribution manifold at the top and bottom of rolling cart to get even distribution of the gas. They are typically marketed for depopulating layer barns where the birds aren't going to slaughter. I'm not sure if there are any physiological responses involved that would make it less than ideal for birds going to immediate slaughter or whether a good bleed out from using other methods increases the quality of the the final product.
 
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I'm thinking very small scale (3 or 4 at a time) so a small "chamber" would work. I think even distribution would be less of an issue with that. Wonder where I could get CO2? Guess I should google it.
 
I have done the broomstick method on a chicken and it is VERY effective. Just pull until you feel a slight pop. If you keep pulling, the whole head will come off. It takes very little effort and I mean very little, a gentle tug will do.
 
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I have done the broomstick method on a chicken and it is VERY effective. Just pull until you feel a slight pop. If you keep pulling, the whole head will come off. It takes very little effort and I mean very little, a gentle tug will do.

Thanks, Renee!! I was hoping it wasn't very hard. I think that for the Muscovy and the Geese that I might just do them all that way. I had the hardest time severing the spinal cord with a hatchet... those Muscovy have big bones!​
 
Here is a youtube video of a chicken gas chamber:


Enjoy.

Either twist its head to break it,or chop its head off.Dont use a gas chamber.
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