Gas Stunning Birds

[FarmrGirl]

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OK... good to know. The whole point is that I don't want them to suffer... I just want it to be as quick and painless as possible.

I don't think I want to watch the video

 

[Mac in Wisco]

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Your local welding supply.

 

[Mac in Wisco]

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OK... good to know. The whole point is that I don't want them to suffer... I just want it to be as quick and painless as possible.

I don't think I want to watch the video

The video shows a fellow pumping CO2 through a hose into the top of a five gallon bucket. Doing it that way the chicken is likely to get frostbitten from the expanding gas before it dies. A distribution manifold and a slow release of gas will prevent snow from forming and help the extremely cold gas to mix with warmer gases in the the box before it contacts the bird.

 

[silkiechicken]

Yeah, just break the neck via dislocation or chop it's head off. Gassing is a way to make it "easier and humane" to people. I've gassed mice with C02 as it is the "humane" way to do it and they jump around gasping for air. Put them in a black box and when you don't see the jumping, and the end result is that they "went to sleep". If you really want to make it humane per se, get an O2 tank and isoflurane (a controlled substance that is about $70-80 per 100ml or 3.3 ounce bottle), which is what they use to put animals "to sleep" for surgery. If you use a gas... use a pure one that does not contain extra chemicals and junk that make some products less likely to be abused by some of the human population. Like how bittering agents are added to some alcohol for example.

Yes, chopping off the head results in flapping around randomly, but that spastic jumping is because the entire body lost contact with the brain, thus does not know what to do and without control of the CNS, muscles randomly twitch.

The video is rather begin, in that the guy just puts the bird into a bucket with lid. Out of sight, out of mind makes it easier. In commercial plants, filling a room with gas "to stun" birds makes it easier to deal with processing the bodies for the workers who do that part of the processing. I can think of a situation in human history where gas chambers were the preferred method...

 

[FarmrGirl]

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Ack! That guy sounds like a complete idiot!

I'm leaning further and further away from the gas idea

 

[gmendoza]

Whats so wrong with chopping the head off? Unless you eat chicken head.

You have to lop it off durring cleaning sometime.Unless you like blood in your chicken and dumplings.

 

[FarmrGirl]

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Yeah, I used a clear tub when I tried the Argon gas so I could see what was going on in there. I read a bunch of stuff online about gas stunning the birds for processing and one technical document said that CO2 caused a reaction in the birds that other inert gases didn't. It wasn't just about displacing the oxygen, it was the body's response to the particular agent of dispacement. One thing caused sleepiness while the other caused panic.

I don't want them to freak out, I just want them to be dazed or asleep before I bleed them.

 

[FarmrGirl]

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LOL! Yes, I do cut the head off after plucking. It's just that the Muscovy (and the big geese) don't "pass out" the way the chickens do when I bleed them in the cones. And the Muscovy have such thick neck bones that I can never get the head off in one swipe. I'd prefer that they were completely dead before I had to hack away at it, ya know?

 

[FarmrGirl]

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Ack! That guy sounds like a complete idiot!

I'm leaning further and further away from the gas idea

 

[gmendoza]

You can make homemade cloroform,but I strongly suggest you take all precautions!!

You need:
either bleach,or bleaching powder( wallymart has both)
Pure acetone( you can either get it at lowes,or home depot or ace,ect...)
ice-crushed
glass cylinder( chemical glass preferred)
funnell
dark colored glass bottle-to capture cloroform)

•Start by filling up a glass container with half a liter of bleach
•Lower the temperature of the bleach solution by adding ice also into the container and allowing it to cool.
•Pour 10 ml of the acetone (to maintain a ratio of 1: 50, one part acetone to fifty parts of bleach) into the container.
•Add some more ice to keep the temperature low. Replacing the cubes that have already melted will ensure this. The bleach must be kept cool as otherwise it will emit fumes of bleach and chloroform.
•Keep aside for 20 minutes to ensure complete reaction. In a while clouding up can be seen with an increase in temperature.
•Allow time for the reaction to settle. This will take about half an hour, but if after this time also the solution does not appear to be settling, a stir will help.
•Once settled, you will see either be a white powder residue or a bubble at the bottom. This is chloroform.
•Pour the solution out with care, ensuring that no powder or bubble leaves the container.
•Now the pure chloroform, which remains in the glass container, can be extracted with a separation funnel.

In my expert advice: DONT DO THIS WITH KIDS AND ANIMALS AROUND AND WEAR PROTECTIVE FACE SHIELD LAB SMOCK,CHEMICAL RUBBER GLOVES,PROTECTIVE EYEWARE.