geese cross breeds Embden x Landes possibility

[Eric Rosario]

Sorry, if i ask already asked questions, lots of info to read here. From my experience, Males will pick their favorites(1-3) and may attack or chase away other females, especially during the breeding season. If your gander is doing such things to the other females, I suggest you either get rid of the victim females or separate them into there own pen, seems like your gander is pretty set on his ways and is not going to change. Like @Miss Lydia said, most people including myself, keep geese in either a pair or trio. I would not let him pull the poor female's feathers for too long, something should be done soon before she gets seriously hurt. You should be able to hatch plenty of goslings with a trio or pair.

How much space do your geese have during the day and at night? Do you have a source of water for them to mate in?

np. to reply, i'm glad for your words. just shortly some summary, we had 3 landes females without gander and we wanted embden gander to them but he was offered to us with the female too, so that's how they are now 1+4. they were doing nicely since sept 2019 till the time we had to close them in pen which was 3x3.6m in later january 2020. We noticed first problems after first week, later when we gave them plus cage addtional 2+2m it was better but one was chased again, so we removed the one victim to separate cage, from one day to another two remaining were bullied the same way, so they ended up together with the first one, on 28th of Feb ( so recently) we released them again to their outer area there is like 13x20 m yard with trees and a pool 1x1m. so that looks much like before. they are sharing this area with our ducks, that we released back after 6 sex due to avian influenza, they are ok. no harm.
they look now all ok, we've seen him mating with the grey females, two looks identical one is a bit lighter, so it seems he is mating with all of them again, even with the one that was chased away most times.
we've never seen on our own eyes his mating with the white embden female, only i've seen that her back was dirty from mud, so i suppose it was from his legs.

 

[Eric Rosario]

so last days the situation is changed, the white embden female took control of the barn and is sitting in one nest with 7 platic eggs, no eggs from her as per as i know. there are two more nests with the plastic eggs too, in one there are two real goose eggs and we are finding duck eggs too. but seems she is not allowing anyone else to come inside.
Gander and the 3 grey females are outside. seems we need to split the barn to the original making the greys their new home but they are not eveny laying outside. we have about 30-40 eggs in total since they started laying this year.
we would like to have the embden eggs mostly and then the landes x embden crosses.
last year all 3 females were in one barn without any issues and were broody together.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Sounds like things have changed and your going to have to make adjustments.

 

[Eric Rosario]

so today've we have split the barn again, bulding up higher wall to cover the two new nests away, with the separate entrance, the entrance is smaller designed for ducks but the grey landes geese were ablet o enter but what's worse even the embdens are able, i've put there some grass as atraction.
but my plan should be if the white female doesn not allow anyone to share the barn with her they might take the other nests in separate space.
we have total 5 nests ready. but not sure what to do we have total 33 eggs (i beilieve all of them from landes) inside in our house stored and 3 are in the barn in nests with plastic eggs too.
no embden egg so far, but she is sitting most of the day in the nest.

i'm thinking about to taking all the eggs outside to the nests and maybe this might attract the landes back to the nests to become broody, cant really wait as they will get older each day. we dont wanna use incubator (its small anyway for goose egg).

 

[Eric Rosario]

i suppose the emden female became broody sitting on 4 plastic eggs without hatching any of her own. so if we take all the eggs from all nests she should start to lay again?

 

[Miss Lydia]

If shes still broody put eggs under her. If she has been sitting for a while she may not start back laying.

 

[Eric Rosario]

i would say it might be only several days less than a week. i've seen info about that even emden can lay two times in season, so if we stop her stage now she could lay again however we haven't seen any egg from her.
and if we fill up the other nests with eggs could the landes become broody? it seems they are not laying not broody currently. not even making nests outside.

 

[Miss Lydia]

It’s a gamble putting eggs out in nest but why not try?

 

[Eric Rosario]

ok. things are not going well at all.

Embden female was separated with the gander from the 3 landes females after removing her from the nest to let her lay her own eggs and possibly go broody and hatch 'em.
no luck, no change since then, no eggs. seems that female has not laid a single egg, per info i've recieved she's about 6 years old, (so maybe more) how old female is still laying eggs, some source says 7-9 they stop laying eggs entirely, some source is proving that goose is still able to lay eggs beyond their 10year of life.

meanwhile 35 eggs went to incubator, only one shown life inside, i'm cracking the other eggs to prepare feed for chicken and i've seen the fertilized dot on each one but they were either old, waiting for too long, or frozen or there were something else.

as our landes females started to lay again, we allowed the gander to be with them and he mated with both females as the third one is broody already.
we'currently one of our landes is broody but from 9 eggs 3 disappeared somehow so i took the rest 6 and put them in incubator, not sure how many days she was sitting but per first checking i have not seen anything inside. I took 2 from other nest and another 2 from the third nest and put them in incubator too. replaced with plastic eggs so they geese have the feeling of filled nests still.
two days ago a new appeared a new egg, i'm supposing that this egg is fertilized it was about several days maybe a week since the gander was together with the females. but i'm getting sceptic with the eggs and whole process so i'm gonna wait for several eggs and collect them putting them in incubator and hatching the goslings with several days weeks difference.