Genetic questions!

[NatJ]

Oh, yeah, sorry my bad! I was thinking silver laced red meant a bird with dominant white lacing and a red/gold base color. Lacing genes is so fascinating!

I usually see "Silver Laced" and "Gold Laced" as terms for birds that have the actual lacing in black, with silver or gold being the color in the middle of the feather. By analogy with the way other laced colors are named, the ought to be "Black Laced Silver" and "Black Laced Gold," but they aren't.

It's much more logical when the varieties have names like White Laced Red, or Blue Laced Red, or Chocolate Laced Silver. That makes it clear they tell the lacing color (white, blue, chocolate) and the ground color (red or silver). If we followed that pattern, we would also say "Black Laced Silver" and "Black Laced Gold."

Yeah, I'm about 90% sure the other color varieties are forms of spangled. Here's some of the other colors
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Ooh, pretty!

 

[Amer]

Me too!!! I'm hoping to get a flock started in Italy for me to take some eggs to the states next summer!

Interesting! Mine has a white tail with orange streaks so I'm assuming birchen

Are you planning on exporting them to the States or moving to the States?

From what I've read Thuringians are critically endangered as a breed and I think they'd be super popular in the states so if I can get some over there I could definitely help the breed!

I agree, they'd be super popular here and I'm surprised no one has imported them already.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

Are you planning on exporting them to the States or moving to the States?

I have friends in the states and some family that want to get hatching eggs whenever I'm able to visit next! You can 100% bring eggs with you on a plane from the EU to the US, you just need to let them know first and you can bring a dozen eggs per person boarding the plane. I brought two dozen earlier this summer and a few of them successfully hatched actually! They're eggs from my landrace project

I agree, they'd be super popular here and I'm surprised no one has imported them already.

There are like 700 documented hens left of the breed last time breeders checked in like 2020, I think the buff color variety has fully disappeared too as of recently. They're only found in Germany too and I'm basically the only person in Italy with one, although I think there have been one of two individuals brought over for poultry shows from Germany.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

I think I'm gonna make a thread to get the popularity up a bit, and next year I'm going up into Germany to collect some hens from a breeder! I got 6 eggs from Germany but only one hatched, and unfortunately he's not been doing well this week.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

I think I'm gonna make a thread to get the popularity up a bit, and next year I'm going up into Germany to collect some hens from a breeder! I got 6 eggs from Germany but only one hatched, and unfortunately he's not been doing well this week.

I'm also making a YouTube channel dedicated to showing off the breed

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

I'm wondering how I could help increase genetic diversity in the breed, they're at a huge risk from inbreeding rn

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

They really are a wonderful breed tbh! I've never had a bird this friendly!

I know there a lot of mixed opinions on this, but do y'all think behavior can be linked to genetics? Nice roosters have nice sons?

 

[PLW]

So over the past few months I've learned a TON of new stuff about poultry genetics... and I won't and never will say I'm 100% right about any of it, but I'd still consider myself fairly knowledgeable... that being said... during my research I've had some questions recently and thought I might as well ask if anyone knows the answers!

To begin with... what would happen if I crossed a Spangled bird like a Sicilian Buttercup hen for example, to a mottled rooster like an Ancona? I'm pretty sure Spangle is a dominant gene and mottling is a recessive gene... but would the general pattern in the feathers change at all? and since Sicilian Buttercups carry the gold gene and Anconas carry Silver then would it be possible for some of the male offspring to be Heterozygous Silver split to Gold?

Another thing I've been wondering is what would happen if I crossed a Cream Legbar rooster to a hen from another breed that laid white eggs? Blue is dominant over white, right? So if all F1 pullet offspring lay blue eggs... and I crossed them back to a rooster of original breed that their moms were to reinforce the look of the breed... would the F2 pullets still all have the gene for blue eggs? I know that if the gene for blue eggs is crossed with the white egg gene then the pullets will end up laying much lighter eggs... but is it possible that they return to being completely white?

And what makes a landrace a TRUE landrace? Are Icelandic's technically a landrace? Or... are they a heritage breed? What's the difference?

I need some of that fellow bird nerd knowledge y'all!!!

I have no idea, but I want to be on Team Bird Nerd!

 

[Amer]

They really are a wonderful breed tbh! I've never had a bird this friendly! View attachment 4211064I know there a lot of mixed opinions on this, but do y'all think behavior can be linked to genetics? Nice roosters have nice sons?

Behavior and genetics are definitely linked.