Genetic questions!

[Amer]

That's very fascinating! So is duckwing not a dominant trait then? I have honestly zero clue what Kikimora is tbh... But she's VERY broody and is actually sitting on a nest of her own eggs currently! If they successfully hatch I'm hoping I'll be able to get some males and females to test this out!

Duckwing is recessive to Birchen.

BTW I already did hatch out a bunch of chicks from this rooster and marans, but they hatched with a bunch of other mixed chicks, so I couldn't tell for sure who was who.
View attachment 4103692View attachment 4103693View attachment 4103694

That's one full incubator!

I'm fairly certain Vadakor carries the same egg color genes as a green EE, right? Olive egger hens crossed to a rooster with a white egg gene would produce offspring that lay green eggs aka "lighter olive eggs"

He could be carrying basically anything at this point. He might be genetically a green layer, or a blue layer, or a brown layer, or a white layer.

 

[TexasBlues]

That's one full incubator!

Sure was! All the chicks sold within the first week so I haven't gotten to see how they are developing. This time I have less eggs in the incubator and no eggs of the fibro olive egger hens either. I plan to use hatching bags to keep the pure black copper marans chicks separate from the whiting x BCM chicks.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

Duckwing is recessive to Birchen.

Good to know, thanks!

That's one full incubator!

He could be carrying basically anything at this point. He might be genetically a green layer, or a blue layer, or a brown layer, or a white layer.

Well then it'll be fun to see what his offspring lay!

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

So I have some questions regarding Duckwing...

Is it dominant to any other genes? What would happen if I crossed a Silver Duckwing hen to a Splash or Blue hen? I'm assuming that Extended Black is dominant over Duckwing, but are Blue and Slash? Since Blue hens usually carry one Black gene would all their offspring be Black when crossed to Duckwing?

 

[Amer]

So I have some questions regarding Duckwing...

Is it dominant to any other genes? What would happen if I crossed a Silver Duckwing hen to a Splash or Blue hen? I'm assuming that Extended Black is dominant over Duckwing, but are Blue and Slash? Since Blue hens usually carry one Black gene would all their offspring be Black when crossed to Duckwing?

To answer your first question, Duckwing is dominant to Partridge and codominant with Wheaten.

To answer your second question:
We are discussing two different genes here: the base pattern (E locus)
And Blue (Bl locus)

Blue and Splash are Extended Black with the blue gene added on top.
Blue E/E Bl/bl+
Splash E/E Bl/Bl

Duckwing is Duckwing without the blue gene. (Sometimes people call "nonblue" black, but it has nothing to do with Extended Black.)
Duckwing e+/e+ bl+/bl+

Blue is Extended Black based with one copy of the incomplete dominant Blue allele.
Blue E/E Bl/bl+
Therefore, when crossed with Duckwing, you will get offspring that are Extended Black based carrying the recessive Duckwing allele.
Half of the offspring will inherit the Blue gene, half won't.
So the offspring will be
Blue
E/e+ Bl/bl+
and Black
E/e+ bl+/bl+

 

[Amer]

There may be some leakage on the males because Extended Black needs the right amount of melanizers to express as solid black but you get the idea.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

To answer your first question, Duckwing is dominant to Partridge and codominant with Wheaten.

To answer your second question:
We are discussing two different genes here: the base pattern (E locus)
And Blue (Bl locus)

Blue and Splash are Extended Black with the blue gene added on top.
Blue E/E Bl/bl+
Splash E/E Bl/Bl

Duckwing is Duckwing without the blue gene. (Sometimes people call "nonblue" black, but it has nothing to do with Extended Black.)
Duckwing e+/e+ bl+/bl+

Blue is Extended Black based with one copy of the incomplete dominant Blue allele.
Blue E/E Bl/bl+
Therefore, when crossed with Duckwing, you will get offspring that are Extended Black based carrying the recessive Duckwing allele.
Half of the offspring will inherit the Blue gene, half won't.
So the offspring will be
Blue
E/e+ Bl/bl+
and Black
E/e+ bl+/bl+

There may be some leakage on the males because Extended Black needs the right amount of melanizers to express as solid black but you get the idea.

That's extremely helpful, thanks for clearing that up for me in such great detail! I was mighty confused there for a sec!

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

I've seen many crosses with Blue Orpington roosters being crossed to Buff Orpington hens and getting offspring like this beauty!

But I'm wondering if I can get the same result but using other breeds? Like for example if I take a Blue or Splash Silverudds rooster and cross him to a Buff Leghorn hen... Would that give me the same result?

What about the same rooster but crossed with this hen from my landrace flock? I'm fairly certain she's what is to be considered a Black Tailed Buff, right? (She's currently molting her crest)

 

[Amer]

I've seen many crosses with Blue Orpington roosters being crossed to Buff Orpington hens and getting offspring like this beauty!View attachment 4106693
But I'm wondering if I can get the same result but using other breeds? Like for example if I take a Blue or Splash Silverudds rooster and cross him to a Buff Leghorn hen... Would that give me the same result?

What about the same rooster but crossed with this hen from my landrace flock? I'm fairly certain she's what is to be considered a Black Tailed Buff, right? (She's currently molting her crest)View attachment 4106696

The blue or splash with the buff Leghorn, definitely.
For the last hen, I'd say yes but her buff isn't as extensive so probably not as much.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

The blue or splash with the buff Leghorn, definitely.

Really? So it would look similar to the photo of the Blue Orp x Buff Orp?

For the last hen, I'd say yes but her buff isn't as extensive so probably not as much.

Hmm, good to know! I really loved her crest when it was fully developed so I wanna try getting some offspring from her that are similar to her in coloration with crests