Genetics help for Breeding

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by crazychicken, Dec 21, 2009.

  1. crazychicken

    crazychicken Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 11, 2008
    NC
    I would like to start a breeding project with barnevelders this spring/summer. what I would like to do is to keep the barnevelders pretty much the same as they are except maybe work on darker eggshell color... and maybe some minor tweaks else where (Depends on the birds I get until I get them I do not know what else I might want to change) .

    Lets say I got two batches of eggs and I got the birds all sorted into the ones I want to breed and so forth.... would I then Proceed to do something like this.

    Hen (Pen 1) X Rooster (Pen 1) = 2nd Gen. hens/roos
    Hen (Pen 2) X Rooster (Pen 2) = 2nd Gen. Hens/Roos

    would I then Breed the 2nd Gen birds showing the characteristics I want to breed for like this.

    Hens (Pen 1, 2nd Gen.) X Rooster ( Pen 2 , 2nd Gen ) = 3rd Gen Hens/Roos
    Hens ( Pen 2 , 2nd Gen ) X Roo (Pen 1, 2nd Gen.) = 3rd Gen Hens/Roos

    Would I then back breed Generation 3 to Generation 1 or would I continue on following the same pattern ?

    Any help would be appreciated right now I am still in the planning/ research Phase.

    *Edited to attempt to remove confusion [​IMG] *
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2009
  2. SteveH

    SteveH Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 10, 2009
    West/Central IL
    I think you are going to need to rephrase the question . I most probably do not have an answer , but don't understand the question .
     
  3. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    Yeah, I don't really understand what you're asking either
     
  4. alicefelldown

    alicefelldown Looking for a broody

    Aug 18, 2008
    I think the OP is asking if it's ok to take the offspring of the two main breeding pairs (1 & 2) and breed them (3 & 4) together to get offspring numbered 5 and 6.
     
  5. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Oh, well if that's the case crazychicken , then I would say you are overcomplicating just a little, if your's asking about inbreeding and such, in is OK to inbreed for a few generations with out causing any harm, actually depening on what you are wanting to do,it may be required that you will have to interbreed or linebreed a generation or two to get what you want, can you tell us what you are trying to get and maybe we can tell you about how to go about doing it ?
     
  6. crazychicken

    crazychicken Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 11, 2008
    NC
    Ok I edited the first post..... some times when I get typing real fast I do not make a lot of sense my friends call it crazy-talk [​IMG] .

    Yes my question was on inbreeding and line-breeding but when I was OP my mind drew up a blank.
     
  7. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    I think you sould use the best birds, regardless of which generation they are from. Just use the one that are the closest to the SOP and Produce the darkest eggs. If you had a way to determine which hen or two layed the darkest eggs, you should probably separate her and breed her to the best roo, and use the best roos that you hatch from her to use for breeding later. So basicly makeing sure your roos come from dark eggs too is pretty important.

    It's kinda like what I am doing with may Barred Rocks, this past year I had 10 hens and 2 roos together in the same pen, and now I will be replacing all those hens with 6 new pullets I hatched from them, but with the roos, I still have my two original roos as well as 2 other young ones that I have rasied from them, but of the 4, I prefer the type of one of the original roos so I will be usind one of the original roos and the 6 new pullets this spring until I can get stock from hopefully as master breeder of SQ BRs in Ca, and maybe some from a breeder in NC as well.
     

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