genetics of dark brahmas

[madscience]

I am new to the chicken world, just got a couple of ameraucanas. I am thinking of getting some dark brahmas(love the pattern). I am very interested in genetics and have studied/bred other animals for specific traits. I've already found this genetics calculator: http://www.edelras.nl/Henk69/kruising.html and have found it very helpful, but haven't found a genetic description for dark brahmas. You can select other breeds like wyandottes, barnevelders, etc. and it automatically plugs in all the genes into the calculator for you, but I haven't found dark brahmas there. I'm sure there are some genetics gurus here that can tell me the genes involved so I can manually enter them into the calculator. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[3riverschick]

I am new to the chicken world, just got a couple of ameraucanas. I am thinking of getting some dark brahmas(love the pattern). I am very interested in genetics and have studied/bred other animals for specific traits. I've already found this genetics calculator: http://www.edelras.nl/Henk69/kruising.html and have found it very helpful, but haven't found a genetic description for dark brahmas. You can select other breeds like wyandottes, barnevelders, etc. and it automatically plugs in all the genes into the calculator for you, but I haven't found dark brahmas there. I'm sure there are some genetics gurus here that can tell me the genes involved so I can manually enter them into the calculator. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Hi,
Okay, I am going by the description below which I found on a couple sites on the Net:
"For example, comparing Brahma's to Cochins, a Light Brahma is also known as Columbian in the Cochins, while a Dark Brahma is known as Silver Penciled in the Cochins. The dark Brahma hen has black, white-edged hackles with dark grey and black penciled body.". If that is correct, then the rest of my info is based on it. If not, then trash this post.
All credit to , and quoted from: Van Dort and Hancox stunning book, "The Genetics of Chicken Colours-The Basics" Page 213.
Silver Pencilled: eb/eb S/S Pg/Pg
( Laced Silver Partridge: Patterned eb/eb S/S Pg/Pg Di/Di ar/ar (when double mated pg+/pg+ in male
Asiatic Silver Partridge; Drente Fowl; Dark as Brahma)
The Silver version of the Brown, eb Partridge. UK, Australian and some European countries double mate this colour in the Wyandotte, the males of which are unpatterned. In fact a Dilute Silver Brown.".
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Best Success,
Karen
Waterford English Light Sussex
in western PA, USA
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[madscience]

Thanks, very helpful. Looks like an interesting book, may have to pick up a copy.

 

[3riverschick]

Hardcover 1st edition sold out. It's a spectacular book and worth every penny. I paid 110. for ine. The first half of the book is a great explanation of the genetics. It uses vegetable soup as a parallel. Base, plus added or minused ingredients. The latter half of the book is a wonderful color encyclopedia of coloredbirds with breed often noted and the pics captiioned with the genetic formulas for the colors . Nothing like it in scope on the market. Website: http://chickencolours.com/

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Reply I recieved from Sigrid Van Dort when inquiring about purchasing volumes of "Genetics of Chicken Colours - The Basics" :
Sent By:
[email protected] On: Aug 08/29/11 3:09 AM
Hi Karen,
The softcovers are printed in January since hard cover is too expensive
after the first run was sold out after 2 years. Printing prices raised a
lot therefore there are printed small runs of 50 books a time digitally.
The book is 75 euros, mail costs to the US of two copies 16,15 euro and
the protecting special carton wrap is 2 euros.
This is in total 168,15 euro.
You can pay with paypal: [email protected]
Or by bank:
Acc. #: 1279.35.401
Name: Sigrid van Dort Vormgeving
City: Klarenbeek
Country: Holland
Bic: RABONL2U
Iban: NL48RABO 0127935401
Have a nice day!
kind regards,
Sigrid
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One book is 75 euros: (as of 10-16-12, 75.00 EUR = 97.8596 USD )
Below is for two copies, all calculations are as of 10-16-12:
, mail costs to the US of two copies 16,15 euro ( 16.15 EUR = 21.0742 USD )
and the protecting special carton wrap is 2 euros ( 2.00 EUR = 2.61001 USD ).
This is in total 168,15 euro ( 168.15 EUR = 219.432 USD ).
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Best,
Karen

Thanks, very helpful. Looks like an interesting book, may have to pick up a copy.

 

[keesmom]

I also have it, and love it. You can get it through Jerry Schexnayder (with the SCNA). He also has Genetics of Chicken Extremes.

Genetics of Chicken Colors - $135
Genetics of Chicken Extremes - $140
prices include 'media' shipping, 7-10 days, can ship 'priority' for additional $10, 2-3 days

 

[Henk69]

http://kippenjungle.nl/breeds/crossbreeds.html

The calculator on kippenjungle is always the latest version. Edelras may lag behind sometimes for new features.