Genetics Question... Please help me.. so I can do the math...

[chickenzoo]

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Yes main reason is to add the new colors & patterns in the green , like your silver pied spalding , even a white high % spalding are grand looking birds, taller and larger train.

I have a real nice silver pied spalding hen, nice mate for yours.

If you want a even higher % bred him to a pure green, they bred him back to his daughter out of that mating....

If you mate him with a high % silverpied spalding hen = 25 % spalding white 50% silverpied, and 25% darkpied(white eye)

Great thing about having a male you can do both breed to a pure green, and silver pied spalding .

Thank you for the info..... when hubby gets re-employed and the weather cools down.................. we'll talk about that hen..... he he

 

[deerman]

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Yes main reason is to add the new colors & patterns in the green , like your silver pied spalding , even a white high % spalding are grand looking birds, taller and larger train.

I have a real nice silver pied spalding hen, nice mate for yours.

If you want a even higher % bred him to a pure green, they bred him back to his daughter out of that mating....

If you mate him with a high % silverpied spalding hen = 25 % spalding white 50% silverpied, and 25% darkpied(white eye)

Great thing about having a male you can do both breed to a pure green, and silver pied spalding .

Thank you for the info..... when hubby gets re-employed and the weather cools down.................. we'll talk about that hen..... he he

well maybe you need to send him up here..........

 

[texascowboy1979]

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No worries.. Anyone can add to this topics... as long as it has to do with Genetics... someone might ask a question I might have missed... Please continue..

 

[texascowboy1979]

Here is another Genetics Question...

What sex are the offspring

Cameo male with Cameo Female = all cameo male and female

Cameo male with White Female = Cameo Females and IB males split to cameo

White Male with Cameo Female = IB Males Split to cameo, and IB females...

So if a pen has Male and Female Cameo, and male and female whites... and eggs produced are Cameo... the odds of it being a female are 75 % and for a male its 25% right?

 

[Kev]

Plus all the white crosses will be white split too, in both sexes. Like the second one, the females would be cameo and split white.

Mix pen.. in a perfect Punnett world you can throw percentages around like that. But reality is it's completely up to the birds. Maybe the hens like the white better, or cameo.. or hens like cameo better but white happens to be better breeder/more fertile, one male is not letting other male breed, or??? lots of variables to throw the percentages off. It's entirely possible to get 100% cameo if only the cameo hens are laying and they prefer the cameo male over the white.. OR the other way can be possible.. the cameo hens are breeding only with the white for whatever reason.. Maybe you will get a ratio close to that.. just no way to tell until chicks hatch.

For example, friend has a pen of one Opal male and one BS Silver pied male(both same age, raised together).. hens are all pied and white splits. So far.. all chicks coming out pied, silver pied, white.. *should* have gotten blue or white eye blue splits too, which is what you would expect from opal male over those same hens.. but none of those so far.

 

[texascowboy1979]

ok.. the reason I was asking... I dont belive in mixed pens... but I bought 3 cameo chicks from a mixed pen... and wondered what the sexes could be.... The mixed pen had white hens and cameo hens... 1 White Male and 1 Cameo Male. I want 1 male at least...

 

[Kev]

If the cameo breeders were not pied or splits.. see if your chicks have some white on wings, that would be tell tale sign of cameo x white. In that case, would guess the ones with white most likely are females, from cameo male x white hen. No white, possibly from cameo x cameo, your chance for male would be better with those.

Also one more thing, a white can be cameo too, just can't see it due to the white covering it up. Mentioning it in case it was the reason they were together but take it they probably were not cameo. Cameo white x cameo= all cameo split white, both sexes.

 

[texascowboy1979]

Ill post pics of the chics I got when I get home.

 

[deerman]

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That not to bad only two colors....so odds most cameo are hen. you could like Kev said improve your odd , because lot of split white do show some white flight feathers. Now little late as you have them already.


Mixed pens or flocks were the breeder has all the colors together. Can be many years before anyone can tell what their birds are. Even with working with new colors or patterns may take years ,because you need to work with split.

 

[texascowboy1979]

Here are pics of the chicks..

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=363909