genetics ?

[nicalandia]

If the father was sexlinked golden then wouldnt he have had golden feathers too?

thats not the case on Pure Extended black birds, as these birds are completely black, whats making the white parts is Mottling, no silver

 

[miohippus]

so the father was extend black with a red background and white molting? and the one chick has the red background coloring leaking through because it is not a extended black but what about the other chick why dosent it have red leakage?

Or i just read some where that Silver Laced polish carry the Gold Lacing gene so could that be where the red/gold color came from.

 

[nicalandia]

so the father was extend black with a red background and white molting? and the one chick has the red background coloring leaking through because it is not a extended black but what about the other chick why dosent it have red leakage?

Or i just read some where that Silver Laced polish carry the Gold Lacing gene so could that be where the red/gold color came from.

yes, its mottling that is causing the white parts, not gold or silver, they dont hava a saying when a bird is pure for Extended black(E/E) a bird could be all black and also be silver and not show any sign of it or gold aswell.. the cockerels that were product of this cross are known as Golden(S/s+) a mix of silver and gold, they are leaking golden(golden my very from a gold tone to silver tone, depending on the bird, thats why you see two cockerels with different tone of golden) because, first, they are not pure extended black and the silver laced birds carry columbian restrictors(restricting the black and showing color)..

 

[miohippus]

so are golden and silver the same color but diffrent tones?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Except that even E/E birds need additional melanizers to be completely black.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

so the father was extend black with a red background and white molting? and the one chick has the red background coloring leaking through because it is not a extended black but what about the other chick why dosent it have red leakage?

Or i just read some where that Silver Laced polish carry the Gold Lacing gene so could that be where the red/gold color came from.

Mottling, not molting. Mottles are white spots at the tips of the feathers; molting is when a bird loses old and grows new feathers.

There is not "gold lacing" gene. There is a combination of genes that create the lacing pattern. Whether a bird carries silver or gold will determine the background colour of the feather.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

so are golden and silver the same color but diffrent tones?

Silver and gold are different variations (alleles) of the same gene. This is a sex-linked gene, meaning that males have two copies and females have only one. A male can be silver (S/S), gold (s+/s+) or golden (S/s+). A female can only be silver (S/-) or gold.(s+/-).

In my experience, golden males look like a brassy-coloured silver. Not the pure clean white of silver, but nowhere near the colour depth of gold. With any of these, the depth of colour can vary depending on whether the bird also has any enhancers or diluters that act on ground colour.

 

[nicalandia]

Except that even E/E birds need additional melanizers to be completely black.

I have yet to see a pure E/E leaking ground color, some inhibitors or restrictors need to be at play before this happens, I have had many E/e+ birds showing no sign of leaking ground color,

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Even Ron Okimoto said that additional melanizers are needed. Unfortunately, I can't find that quote until The Coop is back up

 

[nicalandia]

Even Ron Okimoto said that additional melanizers are needed. Unfortunately, I can't find that quote until The Coop is back up

oh I remember what he said(good memory) he also said that not even Extended black was dominant on some genetic make up, the thing is I have yet to see both of these cases, so I have a feeling that some unknown inhibitors may be at play here...