Getting the flock out of here - a diary of a crazy chicken man

[el pollo rey]

You are describing limit switches.  The term is for what it does not what it is.  What it is is a simple momentary switch Just like the refrigerator light switch  Push on it and it turns the power off.  let it go and its on.  The deal is when the tray is level they will both be on. 

It has to be wired like a hall way switch.  you know where you can turn the light on or off at each end of the hall.

So now you have the problem of the turner action.  you wire the turner or plug the turner into an outlet that is controlled by a timer.    Timer is always going but will turn the motor on at specific times for a given amount of time.... say just a tad bit longer than it takes to tip the tray to the Refrigerator light switch.  Refrigerator light switch turns the power off to the motor. 

I am not a sparky I am a gear head so as I read all this I get stumped by working out how to power both the timer and the rotisserie.  

There is also another way rather than putting the switches on the bottom you can put a single one on the edge.  if you actually get a switch designed to be used for limits they have a roller on them.  The roller keeps the swich from being abraded by moving equipment.  Then you put two screws on the tray to act as the thumb that pushes the switch  Ont in the up position one in the down position.  

There are a bunch of sites for wiriing them up depending on the action you need to have happen.  I used to use my Machinerys Handbook.  But sadly its packed away with all my drafting and design gear at my house sixty miles away.

deb

two Limit switches one wired n/o other n/c wired in series with a reversing starter done and simple

 

[perchie.girl]

Hey I found a thread showing somones Home made incubator simulating a Dickey. third picture down shows a view through the back of the Bator.

Looks like the turners are attached to a single motor that pulls them down one way..... I suspect the trays are weighted the other way to lift them back up....

https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/dickeys-incubator

Ilike the design because there are doors both front and back to access individual components for maintenence. Like someone said.... simpler is better and I do agree.

deb

 

[ozexpat]

I took the electrical engineering conversation to the inventions thread

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/631861/diy-thread-lets-see-your-inventions/560

Its reply 562

Please comment on it if you can.

 

[piglett]

You are describing limit switches. The term is for what it does not what it is. What it is is a simple momentary switch Just like the refrigerator light switch Push on it and it turns the power off. let it go and its on. The deal is when the tray is level they will both be on.

It has to be wired like a hall way switch. you know where you can turn the light on or off at each end of the hall.

So now you have the problem of the turner action. you wire the turner or plug the turner into an outlet that is controlled by a timer. Timer is always going but will turn the motor on at specific times for a given amount of time.... say just a tad bit longer than it takes to tip the tray to the Refrigerator light switch. Refrigerator light switch turns the power off to the motor.

I am not a sparky I am a gear head so as I read all this I get stumped by working out how to power both the timer and the rotisserie.


deb

same here Deb
if you need the engine in your car pulled out no problem
i'll be rite over with the tools & the engine crane
we can do it rite in the driveway

but getting the turner to shut off then start back up when the time is rite is a tough one for me to figure out in my mind
now if i could see one then that's a different story
i know you need two "kill switches" limit switches
but hooking those little suckers up is not something i have ever done
i have rewired my whole house but that is not the same
but as El Polo said it is like a 3way switch in a hallway
but i have never needed to mix a timer in with a 3way switch



thanks all
piglett

 

[hillfloweranch]

Salmon Fav getting photo bombed by White Rock! LOL

 

[ozexpat]

Salmon Fav getting photo bombed by White Rock! LOL

looking good!

 

[Pife]

Here are the best drawings I could find for you. http://www.instructables.com/answers/how-to-reverse-the-polarity-of-a-DC-motor-using-a-/ You may need to add a pulse width modulator to slow down the movement of the actuator. If you do need one make sure to size it to your motor.

Good Luck

 

[LFchixranch]

Oz I am in South central PA, about a half hr east of Hershey. As for getting rid of my flock, it was a mix of emotions. In one hand I didn't want to, but on the other hand it is a chance to have a do over and get it right this time with heritage birds and exactly the ones I want for egg color and yard ornaments. Now that I am in the North East though, I now have to find a location the city/township will allow birds. I think this is going to be much better having to start over. I get to plan and build everything with no rush except for the chicken math pushing me. Now its the planning phase of the what type of birds and size of brooder/breeding/laying pens. I would like to hatch all of them but I really don't want to buy eggs for USPS to muck up. I will probley be hitting up Sally Sunshine at some point as she is close by (About an HR I think) and I would like some Cochin, Brahma's and Silkies for some Broodies. I guess I should sit down and make my list of breeds first before I put the cart in front of the horse. OPPS to late, I gotta find a location first.

 

[ozexpat]

Dick Horstman is near Pitsburgh I think

http://horstmanspoultry.com/home.html

he has a great heritage starter set

single and rose comb RIR
silver penciled rocks
silver and red dorkings
blue andalusians
blue orpingtons
gold laced cochins
silver laced wyandottes

worth a drive

he takes a bit to contact and his birds/eggs get sold out fast but getting on the list is a good move

 

[LFchixranch]

Thanks Oz, there's a few on that list I may look into. I have a ways to go before I can actually add the Chicken... Kinda like making a dish. First I have to select the kitchen (land), then the pot (coup,brooder, pens,run), then the recepie (what chickens), then the cooking starts (BATOR). In time it will come to gether, My biggest problem is not getting ahead of the plan. Have to keep telling myself to take it 1 step at a time. I SOOO want it to be done yesterday.