Getting the flock out of here - a diary of a crazy chicken man

Discussion in 'Incubating & Hatching Eggs' started by ozexpat, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. JerseyHen

    JerseyHen Chillin' With My Peeps

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    With me going back and forth to LA we could set up an east coast/west coast swapping chain. If I figure out how to get the eggs past TSA without radiating them. Oz, you will have to provide me with a tutorial. I am out there just after easter as well.
     
  2. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

    TSA is not an issue but its best to make it very easy for them.

    Standard check luggage is always xrayed because its fast. At LAX oversized luggage - such as a golf bag is not xrayed as it cannot make the turns on the massive automated conveyer systems. When I check in, I get a luggage tag from the airline and then go to the oversized luggage area and a TSA inspector opens the golf bag and rubs the cloth pieces inside the bag and puts them into the "sniffer" to analyze for explosives residue. They do not open the individual boxes with eggs wrapped in them.

    For a small amount of eggs and to be sure you know how they are handled, carry on is easy. When you go to the screener tell them that you have live eggs that you have live eggs that need manual inspection. They may balk if they are new at the job but should ask someone more experienced. I use 3 piece foam inserts. I tape the bottom piece of foam to the larger "holed" piece. They take the eggs and foam out of the box, then put the box through the xray and use the "sniffer" on the eggs while still in the foam. The top piece of foam is not taped so they clearly see the big end of the eggs.


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    This is the box I carried them in, inside the golf bag. I placed a thermometer with a min/max reading nest to the box to see how cold/hot the golf bag got along the way.

    The TSA process adds 5-10 minutes but I would add half an hour.

    If traveling internationally, TSA procedures are the same. Its customs in the country you are traveling to that you need to know and meet the requirements as far as documentation goes.
     
  3. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

    I would love to set up an experiment of studying shipped eggs that have had a known treatment level - that is - not shipped by USPS where we never know where or how the eggs were handled. Maybe we can find other road-warriors that fly in to donate a few eggs and then set them in my bator here in LA (unless I happen to be going to the Phils that week).

    I would have have to find homes for all those chicks but that should not be a problem. I would not attempt to profit fro the experiment except knowledge.
     
  4. Ashburnham

    Ashburnham Chillin' With My Peeps

    See if you can work out a way to get eggs into Australia
    in a golf bag! lol
     
  5. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

    I checked out the regulations.


    4. EGG COLLECTION AND TRANSPORT
    a) The eggs shall be collected, indelibly marked and dispatched under the supervision of a
    Government Veterinary Officer of the country of export. The eggs shall undergo fumigation or
    disinfection and then shall be packed and sealed in air-tight, leak-proof containers for transport to
    Australia.
    b) The eggs shall be packed in such a way that there will be no leakage in the event of the
    eggs breaking during transport.
    c) The eggs must be consigned to Australia by air, by a route approved by AQIS. They
    may be accompanied in transit by other eggs or birds only with the approval of AQIS. Any
    transhipment requires the prior approval of AQIS.
    d) In the event of a consignment arriving in Australia in an unsealed container, or in a
    container the seal of which has been broken, or with inadequate certification, the consignment may
    not be permitted entry into Australia.

    and thats just the transport regs. you should see the rest!!

    doing it legally is basically impossible for a back yarder.

    doing it illegally is not worth the risk - especially to oz - they take their inspections very seriosly. We used to get fumigated sitting on a plane before we could get off at kingsford smith or tullamarine!!

    I have been know to bring the odd steak frozen turkey or cheese to the Phils but they would just confiscate those if found

    basically with eggs for the Phils I need to get a permit before I ship, have a pre-approved quarrantine room to hatch and brood that is isolated and test if the vet comes. Its $2 per egg for the whole shabang!
     
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  6. JerseyHen

    JerseyHen Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It would be cool to have a nationwide chicken train going. We could all swap eggs and share with one another and not have to depend on the USPS. Maybe we need a thread where people could post where they are going and others can ask them to ferry eggs? It would be interesting to see what the hatch rates are for eggs shipped this way vs. the traditional mail route.
     
  7. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

    let me start one and see what happens. I will post the link
     
  8. Ashburnham

    Ashburnham Chillin' With My Peeps

    Basically you can only get eggs into Oz legally if you are a large company or a multi-millionaire!
     
  9. ozexpat

    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

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    ozexpat CocoBeach Farm

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