Give flock milk to drink

[Akane]

what all are they eating? If you can get any other source of calcium I'd skip milk. No animal except humans keep the ability to digest milk once they are adults. That's only happened in our more recent history and only those with european ancestors don't steadily lose the ability to digest milk as they get older. You really shouldn't give milk to any animal. The only dairy they should have needs to be cultured (bacteria allowed to grow and digest part of the milk for them) and it's already been mentioned that processed milk like what you have no longer has the bacteria needed to culture correctly.

Do you have any forms of premade poultry feed there? Usually a feed made for layers will contain enough calcium for most chickens. You can then dry out their egg shells, crush them up, and feed them back to them for a little extra calcium.

 

[mulia24]

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i don't have beans but i can afford to find peas,

by the way, i have search pics of peas on net, is that peas: a little green hard shelled grain that good taste when boiled and when sprouted they have a little root and white long *body* with the peas on the top being divided due to sprouted? is that the thing?

beg your pardon for bad english,again.

 

[mulia24]

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i've search the pics of kale, yes we do have it here but that's rare and quite difficult to find tough cheap.

thanks for the information. maybe they can get more fatter after eat the peanut and ready to be served on table soon.

 

[ke.appaloosas]

Yes, that is what a pea is. There are many types of plants in that family, too. I'm new at this myself, but I wonder if Mung Beans would be good to sprout/feed, also? They are very inexpensive here but I have no idea what their availability is in Indonesia.

 

[mulia24]

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they refuse eating egg shell and unfortunately when i tried to *force* them eat it by mixing eat with grain, they stop laying for 1 week.

yap, i'll try to get poultry feed, but i really know that there's no company that can be trusted here. i mean that company that produce the feed could be bad or other but i'll get it to flock.

then, i won't give milk to them.

thanks akane, by the way, i always think of Ranma's comic whenever i heard/see akane word.

 

[mulia24]

ke.appaloosas :

Yes, that is what a pea is. There are many types of plants in that family, too. I'm new at this myself, but I wonder if Mung Beans would be good to sprout/feed, also? They are very inexpensive here but I have no idea what their availability is in Indonesia.

wew, mung beans? never heard.

quite confusing then with many types of them.

i've just try to search image of mung beans in google, that's true that's mung beans that i described above, they grow with *seed* above and white body. that's the common thing to mix in many food here.
many of people eat them *raw*/sprouted.
and yes, they're not expensive, they are good for flock, aren't they? what nutrition they possess? could they supply good amount of protein and calcium for chicken?

and is that easy to sprout them?
is that safe to feed grain of mung beans for the flock?


i'm sorry asking too much, i hope mung beans could be the answer to *wealthing* my flock need of protein and calcium. thanks for any help/advice/answer.

 

[digitS']

Dry mung beans are about 24% protein. You aren't really losing any protein by sprouting them - just adding water. They should be easier for the chickens to digest after they are sprouted.

The bean protein cannot all be changed into chicken egg protein, inside the hen. She needs some other proteins like what are in cereal grains.

Cereal grains like rice and corn are lower in protein than beans. Still, some in their feed would be good. And, if you can give any "animal protein" like fish, that would be good, too.

Steve

 

[mulia24]

thank you steve, i'll sometime provide fish for them, perhaps once a week.

here i only give them: cracked corn and rice grain as basic food everyday.

sometimes i give them : banana's tree leaf, they love it.

and after joining BYC and get know : i give (sometime and little) them fish, tomato, Quaker(R) oats, egg shell.

the thing they hate is egg shell.

i hope after know that mung beans is *green peanut * (that's what we call it here

) and have lots of protein, flock will have much protein from now on.

and how about calcium? can i obtain other kind of grain to provide them good calcium, an easy to get of course like this mung bean.

thank you so much.

 

[digitS']

Since chickens are supposed to be really good at free choice calcium and your birds aren't eating eggshell - I think that they may "know" best.

Some places, soil has so much calcium in it that they are getting all they need eating around on the ground.

The chance to eat green, green leafy vegetables should help.

Steve

 

[Akane]

I doubt they stopped laying just because you mixed in egg shell but if they aren't eating it they may not need any extra calcium. The seed or fruit part of most plant are low in calcium and high in phosphorous (the counter to calcium) so most grains aren't going to help with calcium. I've kept many exotic small animals and calcium along with calcium phosphorous ratios are very important so I have many lists of vegetable and fruits ordered by calcium level. The top of the list for greens or vegetable with high calcium to phosphorous would be collard greens, mustard spinach, turnip greens, amaranth, dandelion greens, bok choy, and chinese cabbage. I don't know if any of those are available to be grown by you. For fruit lemon peel, orange peel, roselle, papaya, rose apple, kumquat, oranges, and figs make the top of the list but you don't want to include too much fruit in the diet.