GMO Feeds

[Areolyn]

How is controlling weather evil????

We get to learn from controlling the weather and understand it more. Also....

Cris is right, feed the soil and it will feed you.

Synthetic fertilizers can be very useful, as with gmo's, which are nothing more than the plant that they are. Also, I am surprised the argument of specific genes is not mentioned here, which is a common strike people have on gmo's, that includes fertilizer and pesticides. On the level DNA, its so basic that gmo's and 'organic' plants are no different from each other, except that maybe some are labeled different and may or may not be sprayed with pesticide.

Also, on a chemical/element level, look at synthetic fertilizers vs non synthetic fertilizers. They are the same thing. Nitrogen is nitrogen, as calcium is calcium. The origin of production doesn't make it more dangerous or less dangerous. It is what it is. Take a nitrogen molecule from an 'organic' fertilizer, and set beside a nitrogen molecule from a synthetic fertilizer. The nitrogen molecule from the 'organic' fertilizer is not going to be a special molecule. It is a nitrogen molecule, just like it's partner.

Pesticides, organic or not, are meant to be just that: pesticides.

I guess you can I say this is reviving a thread, but just wanted to put some cents in the jar.

 

[roseyred]

It is destroying the ionosphere. There are many theory's and many studies and I personaly think its bad. As are geneticly modified foods, as are pesticides. This is my opinion and all the research I have done supports that these methods are unsafe and have long term effects on the planet and the body.

 

[Areolyn]

....the ionophere is here because of sunlight and lack of atmospheric pressure, I hardly think it would just make a large hole to obliterate us all. The sun literally replenishes it constantly. But that is best left to debate in a different thread, though very interesting to discuss.

 

[The Colonel]

So which is worse GMO seeds from Monsanto or the organic pesticides from Monsanto ? 

I'm with Matt on this one.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

I'm with Matt on this one.

Then my farm is in great shape since I don't plant any seeds from Monsanto nor do I use any of the herbicides or pesticides the manufacture.

 

[roseyred]

If gmo seeds aren't bad Why do they mutate dna? Not only in humans. Unmodified plants can't turn gmo into non gmo but no can easily cross breed with plants. Ever heard of round up? I'm sure you all have. It's poisonis right? You wouldn't wanna spray it on anything you or your kids were planning to put in there mouth. Wellllll part of genetic modification is creating a resistance to round up along with other toxic things. Like 7x the resistance. So they could use more of the nasty stuff to kill weeds and other pest that when used on plants without genetic modification would kill the plants. And just like the human body, plants absorb whatever comes in contact with them. So eat your round up plants. I'll stick to weeding and using companion planting to deal with my "pests" and eat organic and non pesticide and herbicide sprayed crops.

 

[Areolyn]

I've already explained gmos above in my posts. If that wasn't simple enough then I suggest finding free courses online about DNA and the matter. I guarantee you will find them for free.

GMO's have existed since the dawn of farming.....don't believe me?

Go eat wild wheat.

Try eating corn before farming ever got to it.

Bananas? Not likely.

And a truckload of other vegetables and fruits hat have been modified from the mustard plant and other various plants.

You know you share DNA with of other creatures on this planet? A fish, bananas, reptiles, monkeys, and many other things. DNA is universal, there is a universal code for everything. And how is cross breeding plants so hard? Gegor Mendel did it, and yes, the process was tedious, but anyone with a basic understanding of genetics can cross breed a plant. Mutate humans? You make my head spin. Humans and all other organisms(including your precious organic plants) mutate every day. That is just apart of nature, apart of DNA, cells, life.....anything biological. I promise you we won't have super humans or deformed babies being born because someone ate a modified apple, but we will have different generation each time it is born because of mutation..regardless of eating that apple or eating an 'organic' piece of lettuce. You can have an opinion, but science is still science, and it doesn't give a care in the world about anyone's opinion, not even the scientists who spurred it.

 

[roseyred]

I would love to know where you obtain your information about gmos being safe. Cancer is not a good mutation. And if gmos have been around for so **** long why are there even organic things left? I'd say because people like me know the dangers and want to keep things real and safe. Humans evolve...that's obvious. How about this lets do a real life study. I'll continue to eat the way I do and mutate my dna as little as possible and Keep sharing my supported views on how harmful and caustic some of the gmo, pesticide, factory farmed and all other things that are unnatural.

We were given everything we need. It's a balance that thigs like this are destroying.

 

[JetsChickens]

I've already explained gmos above in my posts. If that wasn't simple enough then I suggest finding free courses online about DNA and the matter. I guarantee you will find them for free.

GMO's have existed since the dawn of farming.....don't believe me?

Go eat wild wheat.

Try eating corn before farming ever got to it.

Bananas? Not likely.

And a truckload of other vegetables and fruits hat have been modified from the mustard plant and other various plants.

You know you share DNA with of other creatures on this planet? A fish, bananas, reptiles, monkeys, and many other things. DNA is universal, there is a universal code for everything. And how is cross breeding plants so hard? Gegor Mendel did it, and yes, the process was tedious, but anyone with a basic understanding of genetics can cross breed a plant. Mutate humans? You make my head spin. Humans and all other organisms(including your precious organic plants) mutate every day. That is just apart of nature, apart of DNA, cells, life.....anything biological. I promise you we won't have super humans or deformed babies being born because someone ate a modified apple, but we will have different generation each time it is born because of mutation..regardless of eating that apple or eating an 'organic' piece of lettuce. You can have an opinion, but science is still science, and it doesn't give a care in the world about anyone's opinion, not even the scientists who spurred it.

Maize or however it is spelled, the original corn and Mendel's pea plants are hybrids. Crossing similar, but different plants to get a specific result. The GMO's that Roseyred is referring to are the ones where they splice genes from insects or animals into plant crop DNA or modifying the genes of a plant to make it give off pest killing toxins.

There is nothing wrong with hybridization and as you rightly pointed out it has been around for a very long time. There is a lot wrong however with inserting genes from a different species into another or making plants create pesticides it wouldn't normally produce on its own.

 

[matt44644]

Conclusions
Commercial livestock populations are the largest
consumers of GE crops, and globally, billions of animals
have been eating GE feed for almost 2 decades. An
extensive search of peer-reviewed literature and field
observations of animals fed diets containing GE crop
products have revealed no unexpected perturbations or
disturbing trends in animal performance or health indicators.
Likewise, it is not possible to distinguish any
differences in the nutritional profile of animal products
following consumption of GE feed. Animal agriculture
is currently highly dependent on GE feed sources,
and global trade of livestock feed is largely supplied
by countries that have approved the cultivation of GE
crops. Supplying non-GE-fed animal products is likely
to become increasingly expensive given the expanding
global planting of GE crops and the growing number of
countries that raise them. The market for animals that
have not consumed GE feed is currently a niche market
in the United States, although such products are available
to interested consumers via voluntary processbased
marketing programs. The cost of these products
is higher than conventionally produced products due to
both the higher cost of non-GE feed and the costs associated
with certifying the absence of GE crops in the
production process and product segregation. There is
currently a pipeline of so-called “second generation” GE
crops with improved output traits for livestock production.
Their approval will further complicate the sourcing
of non-GE feedstuffs. Additionally, recent developments
in techniques to induce precise genetic changes in
targeted genes offer both tremendous opportunities and
a challenge for global regulatory oversight. Given these
developments, there is an urgent need for international
harmonization of both regulatory frameworks for GE
crops and governance of advanced breeding techniques
to prevent widespread disruptions in international trade
of livestock feedstuffs in the future.
https://www.asas.org/docs/default-source/jas-files/final.pdf?sfvrsn=0