Goat Experts - what do you think?

$75 is cheap, unless you go to auction, but then that's a whole other ball game... You'll wind up coming home with all of 'em! They look cute to me. I'm sure the pic is what's making his head look funny
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Sounds like she's trying to be a responsible breeder if she's giving you all that stuff with them - at least she seems to care about their welfare. I've gotten goats from breeders, but also from auction. The only one I ever had a problem with was from a breeder. He was a boer/nubian. The disease he had was only passed through the Mom to the baby, so nobody else was at risk, but we ended up having to put him to sleep because he couldn't walk any more. The goat we got through auction was healthy, and died of old age. I have never had any tests done
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, but my goats are strictly pets who don't get sold, eaten, or used for milk. You'll love the goats once you have them!! They are very addictive... Kind of like chickens
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I laugh when people tell me they have "closed herds" because NOT ONLY are goats houdini's and tend to get out once in a while, but unless you live in a sterile part of the world, deer and other wildlife can spread diseases like TB, brucellosis and blackleg (among other things) to your goats and cattle. I'm constantly hearing a neighbor say she has a closed herd as her animals roam the countryside instead of being where they're supposed to be.

There's no such thing as a closed herd. If you want disease free animals, the best thing to do is to have them tested. If you're going to be drinking the milk, it's a must. If you're not worried about spreading stuff to other goats or cattle, then I guess it'd be okay. They're animals, they get diseases. TB and brucellosis are human transmittable (if you drink raw unpasteurized milk). Blackleg can kill them though. CAE is hard to diagnose because it's slow-going. CL can show up later too.

I'd much prefer to do all the testing, but it really depends on what you want these animals for. Nothing is fool proof, you just do what you can to give yourself the best chances for a disease free herd. Keep in mind that if the goats are bred, or just kidded, their tests might come out false negative/positive.

For example, some diseases are slow developing, and some don't show symptoms at all. Like BLV in cows, which is basically a wasting disease. It's hard to find a cow from a dairy that doesn't test positive for it, but symptoms may never show up ever, but if it does, the poor thing wastes away to nothing. It's also transmitable to other cows. But if you already have a cow that tests positive for BLV, you might not mind getting another one with it because not only is there a small chance they'll show the devestating symptoms, but you already have a cow positive for it...in addition, it's not transmittable to humans. So it depends on your own needs and situation.

A goat with CL may not show symptoms until they spread it all over your pasture and shelters, and sometimes you might buy a kid from a doe that doesn't show symptoms until years later. Some people don't mind CAE goats if they bottle feed their kids.

But whatever you decide to do, I wouldn't just go by them saying they have a closed herd. That's just them being silly... there's no way she would possibly know they were negative by just saying she's got a closed herd and only brings in bucks that test negative.

Does she even vaccinate them? For what? And when? Be sure to ask her if they'll need boosters.

Though I think it's great that's she's providing you with the feed, grain and minerals she's providing. What about wormers? When were they wormed last, and with what? That might be helpful information for you as well.

They're very pretty though. As for the head being too big, I see what you mean, but I bet it's just the picture. You can ask them to send you more pictures...that shouldn't be a problem.
 
Cara - thank you for that bit about CAE.

19hhbelgian - I wouldn't dare go to auction at this time. I wouldn't know what to look for and I would go for the cuteness factor.

I talked to a gal south of me who has a friend who does buy at the auctions and hands off the sickly ones to her to rehab that she then sells when well enough.
 
If you are not looking at breeding you could also check your local shelters or petfinder.com

I personally would not pursue those pictured as they just do not look right (unless it is just really bad picture). Also, boers, in my experience, need to have their feet trimmed more (but that is just what I have found).

You could try doing a search on craigslist to do a comparison of pricing for goats to give you an idea of what is typical in your area. Also, you can search for local farms that breed (especially milk goats) and likely get wethers pretty cheap.

For pets and non-breeding, definitely do NOT get a buck. (stinky reeky!)
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I've checked out both sites. I am big on rescue. All of my dogs have been rescues.

I didn't like Puget Sound Rescue since they get their rescues from the meat auctions. My feeling is the goats have not been raised as pets but for meat and then hauled off and sold to the highest bidder (very sad). I'm thinking that they may not be all that healthy because of the purpose of their breeding.

The other place is up in Arlington - 2 1/2 hr drive for me and my preference would be to find something closer to home.
 
Is there any rescues in Portland? Have you checked out the craigs list for down there. Portland's only about an hour and a half from you right?
 
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I haven't checked Portland Craigslist yet and that's a good idea, as folks maybe North of Portland. Longview is 1 hr 15 min. I have family there. Portland is another 1/2 hr. south.

I have checked breeders in Oregon but find them to be more than what I want to spend - $300-$350.00 for doelings.
 
Did you say what you are getting the goats for? They are probably boer,boer/cross wethers. I would go and look at them...You will be able to tell alot about them from their surroundings. They both look like they are in a good body condition and their bellies look big and round...that would usually mean that their rumens are actively working thus being relatively healthy....If you are concerned about diseases a breeder is a far safer place to get a younster than a rescue or auction would be....Closed herd? I have a closed herd I don't ever introduce animals without my own test results and only after a 60 quarentine. Sounds like the seller is trying to be as honest as they can be....I've never had any problems with cross contamination between species,with goats anyway.....$75? that is cheap for a good wether of their size and body condition....A producer/breeder uses $1.25 per pound as a target price for selling profits...This is JMO...I base my statements on my experience in my area...
 
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Thank you HC - I found a mini nubian and buddy nigerian dwarf that I'm going to go see down in Portland on Saturday.
 

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