Goat people please help

[bossofchaos]

8 week old oberhasli buck:
Yesterday perfectly fine
Gave 1cc of goat vac cdt
Gave a dab of wormer safe-guard
And his bottle of milk

Within an hour he was lethargic, head drooping, separating from the other goats.

Called breeder.... She said probably allergic reaction give Benadryl

Gave him 1/2 ts

Survives the night

Today.....still the same

I've given him
REFUSE bottle :-(
Pepto bismol 9:00 am
1/2 baby asprin
Pedialyte- force fed about 8-10 oz

Continued the pedialyte 4 times throughout the day

Seems his jaw is very tight he won't open and I have to pry it open
Back legs are getting a little weak (maybe from no food?)

Feed store recommended probiotic plus to the 5 mark.

Just forced him to drink milk 10 oz or so

Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.
We are totally in love with him.

 

[bossofchaos]

Also his poop looks great
Fever at 104.9
Urine looks good
Eyelids pale

Gave him 3 baby aspirins at 4:00

 

[Stacykins]

The dosage for CDT vaccine is 2ccs, regardless of the size of the goat. A tiny Nigerian kid gets 2ccs, a giant boer buck gets 2ccs. Is this his first CDT or his second?

His symptoms very strongly suggest goat polio. You need to start treatment NOW. It involves doses of thiamin, vitamin B1.

Copied and pasted from article: Early symptoms are: Weakened rear legs, staggering, circling, wobbly, elevated head, star gazing, confusion, blindness, wandering, muscle tremors, and/or their eyes may or may not dart around. Advanced onset symptoms – blind, wobbly, down/unable to get up, extreme weakness, unable to stand.

Most people treat for a goat for both polio AND listeriosis. Why? Because the symptoms are so similar. Listeriosis is treated with very high dosages of penicillin. There is a dosage chart here, near the listeriosis part of the article.

You must get a weight on your goat to give the appropriate amount of medication. Even though it is likely completely unrelated, I am guessing you didn't weigh him when you gave him a 'dab' of safe-guard? Why didn't you measure out a proper amount? Under dosing a wormer only leads resistant worms, since most are not killed. Overdose some medications, and you can kill an animal. Always weigh before dosing anything.

 

[bossofchaos]

The breeder told me to give him a dab.
I'm sorry I've only been a goat owner for two months and making so many mistakes. I'm trying my hardest to do the right things but it seems everyone has a different theory.
Breeder also told me to give 1 cc
And it's his second she told me she gave him his first and for me to do it in a month?

Is he going to survive?

 

[bossofchaos]

How do I treat the polio?

 

[Stacykins]

Ah, gotcha. Bad information from the breeder!

He needs high doses of thiamine, vitamin B1. You can get it from the vet, pure thiamine that is injectable. It gets it into his system faster. In a pinch, you can use human thiamine tablets, crushed up. OR you can use injectible vitamin B complex, which is a mixture of B vitamins, B1, B2, B12, etc. You can buy it at tractor supply. It is an injection too, so get plenty of syringes and needles.

B vitamins are almost impossible to overdose, so you don't have to worry about it with them. They are water soluable. Any unused B vitamin is removed from their body in the urine.

The treatment dose for goat polio is 10mg of thiamine per kilogram of body weight, given every six hours until the symptoms are completely resolved. One kilogram weighs 2.2 pounds. Calculating medication doses is pretty easy. For example, If your little laddie weighs 15lbs, he is 6.8kgs. So he'd need 68 mg of thiamine in one dose. Keep in mind, this is if you are giving it as an injection. If you are giving thiamine orally, like human tablets, you need to give much more.

 

[bossofchaos]

Update:
Got the thiamin 100
Crushed up two pills and mixed with water gave it to him in a syringe.
Will continue every 6 hours!
I pray this works.
He does seen to be a tiny bit better I think from the probios

 

[bossofchaos]

Temp is at 104.4

 

[Stacykins]

Aspirin would help bring down his temperature. The goat dose for aspirin is actually quite high, as it is poorly absorbed in their gut. The dosage is 100mg of aspirin per kg.

If you have access to a vet, getting banamine would be best. Think of it as ibuprofen for goats. It reduces fever, swelling, and pain.