I haven't been able to get on either. It seems like as soon as I requested to become a member the whole site just shut down. I never got a conformation email from them either. I guess my request was the straw that broke the camels back and shut the whole site down. lol I hope thats not the case though, I don't want a bunch of angry goat farmers comin after me with pitch forks.
From what I have heard they are trying to get it back together so who knows if they can or not ...they are trying..thats why they started the other as a backup sortof...