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kuchchicks said:
Oh ok. Can you think of a reason that most of what i lost are all the same breed when i placed such a wide variety?
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Could be a number of things. Do you check your air cells to monitor the growth during incubation. If the eggs were from the same breed or laying hen, it could signify that that breed or hen lays either thicker less porous shelled eggs and could be a matter of them not loosing enough moisture during incubation or the flip side of that they could be more porouse and thinner shelled and loose too much. There could be issues with the breed itself in the flock if they came from an outside source. Some breeds such as the Aracauna and Japanese bantams have lethal genes in which 25% of the can die in shell. (I say can because with the Aracaunas it depends wether you are breeding tuft to tuft or tuft to clean faced wether you can get the lethal allel or not.) It might not even be the eggs there's a slim chance that if the same breed of eggs were kept in the same spot in the incubator and it happened to be a cold/warm spot, it could contribute.

cow bay rooster said:
I though I read somewhere that the blood ring was indication of bacteria getting into the egg.
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Blood ring itself is an indication that the egg stopped developing early in the incubation. It can be because of bacteria. I have read the same thing. I believe that most deaths that early are contributed to being because of bacteria, but it doesn't neccessarily mean that's what caused the egg to stop developing.
 
Ok I guess my biggest question was trying to figure out if it was something that maybe I was doing versus the eggs themselves. 12 of the 13 silkies I placed all came from the same farmer. I attempted to hatch with his eggs last month and had 4 out of 12 develop but only 3 hatched. Obviously much worse this time. This time 11 of the 12 were either clears or now the blood ring. In my incubator I spread the silkies out. I did not group any of my breeds together (thinking that if there were hot/cold spots or something going on in one section of the bator I did not want it to affect all of one type of egg). Most of all of my other eggs are doing well. My air cells look like they have progressed at day 7 and 14 like they are supposed to (looking at the diagram). My temps have been consistent between 99.7-100.3 (preset Hova) and my humidity consistent 29%-35%. I have only ever opened the bator to candle the eggs ( I have a tube running through the bator to add water). When I candled them on day 7 I think the temp dropped a total of 30 minutes from start of candling to the time the bator was stable again. This time when I candled I did not leave the lid off. I grabbed 6 eggs at a time and left the rest in a closed bator. I was concerned that it took me so long to candle them last time and did not want to let the temp drop so long.

I just was wondering if maybe my letting the temp drop for 30 minutes was the cause of the blood ring? If not I cannot think of anything else that I could have done that would have caused them to die. I do wash my hands prior to handling the eggs.

I am really into the silkies and want to place more next month (along with Frizzles if I can get enough and a breed with dark brown eggs). Before I place silkies though I think I am going to find another farmer because I am starting to feel like the cause of all of the demise is the source. Does this seem like a logical determination?
 
Letting the temp drop long enough to candle did not effect your eggs at all. Momma gets off the nest every day and her eggs hatch just fine. In fact, isn't a cool down period the new thing with the Brinsea incubators?

I would definitely get silkie eggs from another source.
 
kuchchicks said:
Ok I guess my biggest question was trying to figure out if it was something that maybe I was doing versus the eggs themselves. 12 of the 13 silkies I placed all came from the same farmer. I attempted to hatch with his eggs last month and had 4 out of 12 develop but only 3 hatched. Obviously much worse this time. This time 11 of the 12 were either clears or now the blood ring. In my incubator I spread the silkies out. I did not group any of my breeds together (thinking that if there were hot/cold spots or something going on in one section of the bator I did not want it to affect all of one type of egg). Most of all of my other eggs are doing well. My air cells look like they have progressed at day 7 and 14 like they are supposed to (looking at the diagram). My temps have been consistent between 99.7-100.3 (preset Hova) and my humidity consistent 29%-35%. I have only ever opened the bator to candle the eggs ( I have a tube running through the bator to add water). When I candled them on day 7 I think the temp dropped a total of 30 minutes from start of candling to the time the bator was stable again. This time when I candled I did not leave the lid off. I grabbed 6 eggs at a time and left the rest in a closed bator. I was concerned that it took me so long to candle them last time and did not want to let the temp drop so long.

I just was wondering if maybe my letting the temp drop for 30 minutes was the cause of the blood ring? If not I cannot think of anything else that I could have done that would have caused them to die. I do wash my hands prior to handling the eggs.

I am really into the silkies and want to place more next month (along with Frizzles if I can get enough and a breed with dark brown eggs). Before I place silkies though I think I am going to find another farmer because I am starting to feel like the cause of all of the demise is the source. Does this seem like a logical determination?
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donrae said:
Letting the temp drop long enough to candle did not effect your eggs at all. Momma gets off the nest every day and her eggs hatch just fine. In fact, isn't a cool down period the new thing with the Brinsea incubators?

I would definitely get silkie eggs from another source.
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I totally agree. I was going to say the same thing. Almost verbatim....lol
 
Officially in lockdown! I have 30 (I think) viable eggs. I can't really tell on the 10 green/blue eggs but they have good air cells and are otherwise very dark everywhere else. I did pull 3 that appeared to be clears (and were when I opened them). I also have 2 silkies, 3 polish, and a barnyard mix. I was surprised that I had to add water to 3 out of 4 of my water cells to get the humidity up. Right now it is up to 65% and am considering adding water to the 4 cell to get it closer to 75%. Thoughts?
 
kuchchicks said:
Officially in lockdown! I have 30 (I think) viable eggs. I can't really tell on the 10 green/blue eggs but they have good air cells and are otherwise very dark everywhere else. I did pull 3 that appeared to be clears (and were when I opened them). I also have 2 silkies, 3 polish, and a barnyard mix. I was surprised that I had to add water to 3 out of 4 of my water cells to get the humidity up. Right now it is up to 65% and am considering adding water to the 4 cell to get it closer to 75%. Thoughts?
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I run at 75% myself.
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Good luck!! I can't wait to see chicks, especially the polish!!
 
Well with all 4 channels filled im only up to 69%. Guess im gonna have to get a couple of sponges in the morn and add those. Getting excited for Sunday!!!!
 
My first 3 chicks are here! So far 2 Polish and a Seabright. Today is day 20 and looking great. I have 3 more pipped. I LOVE THIS PART!!!!
 

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