Golden campines.

[Drieslag]

in the present day campines double mating is no longer necessary since males and females have identical coloring and barring.

the old style Belgian Campine wasn't hen feathered and the roosters then had white tops and white saddle hackles.

 

[stvnschnell]

Ok Campine people, I'm really struggling. I have two cockerels. I need to cull one. Initially it was an easy call since one of them has a extra sprig coming out of one of his comb points. However, I keep noticing positives that he has over my other cockerel. Such as: More vigorous ( crowed at 3 1/2 weeks, head is held higher and more confident looking, and also is now at 8 weeks already trying to breed the pullets in the coop), Carries his tail higher (the other cockerels tail is almost horizontal. Both of their tails look like they may be starting to split as well. Ideally I guess I would cull both, but I have to start somewhere and I'm afraid ill never find the perfect male to start my breeding program with, so I'll try for perfection through breeding. Which bird do I choose?

 

[PrestonC]

Ok Campine people, I'm really struggling. I have two cockerels. I need to cull one. Initially it was an easy call since one of them has a extra sprig coming out of one of his comb points. However, I keep noticing positives that he has over my other cockerel. Such as: More vigorous ( crowed at 3 1/2 weeks, head is held higher and more confident looking, and also is now at 8 weeks already trying to breed the pullets in the coop), Carries his tail higher (the other cockerels tail is almost horizontal. Both of their tails look like they may be starting to split as well. Ideally I guess I would cull both, but I have to start somewhere and I'm afraid ill never find the perfect male to start my breeding program with, so I'll try for perfection through breeding. Which bird do I choose?

Pictures would help.

One of the things we have discussed about the breed is weight. The bigger bird will be better as far as that goes. Hard to find correct weight. BUT.... what you listed are all positives. I would also post this in the other campine thread if u haven't already.

 

[stvnschnell]

I know this picture isn't great, but it's the best I have on my phone. As you can see both cockerels are fairly close in dimension and weight. I suppose I still have some time as they are only 8 weeks old, but I study them daily with my SOP trying to get a leg up on my decision. I just don't want to make a mistake. I'm not sure if I immediately disqualify the cockerel with the funky comb or if his other attributes outweigh the imperfection.

 

[PrestonC]

I know this picture isn't great, but it's the best I have on my phone. As you can see both cockerels are fairly close in dimension and weight. I suppose I still have some time as they are only 8 weeks old, but I study them daily with my SOP trying to get a leg up on my decision. I just don't want to make a mistake. I'm not sure if I immediately disqualify the cockerel with the funky comb or if his other attributes outweigh the imperfection.

Okay, this helps me a little better. I will make chart with the best of my ability

FUNK COMB:
-color is more intense
-has more of a presence
-solid hackles

BETTER COMB:
-good comb
-solid hackles

It may just be the picture but the funk comb also has better wattles. Maybe not though. Also check for eye color, ear lobes, undercolor, and be sure they have hen feathering. All important. While not ideal, I have seen similar bad combs in the show room. But I would wait a little while longer before making a choice. Where did u get these guys?

 

[stvnschnell]

They are hatchery chicks from Murray McMurray. These two and one pullet are what's left of 5 Campines that were on my order. I am picking up ten more the last week of the month from a hatchery here in Ohio. 2 cockerels, 8 pullets. I'm hoping to keep 1 of those two as well, but we'll see. I was told that I should go with hatchery chicks since a Campine breeder may be tough to find. I'm finding that there may be more breeders than I thought, but these are already ordered so I'm going to try and make something out of them

 

[Drieslag]

Just a reply on the tail. A Campine's tail is not supposed to be carried that straight, in fact they should be closer to the horizontal than the vertical!
Below I added a picture of a pair of ideal Campines from 1914, the year they were admitted to the American Standard of Perfection.

And hopefully I can persuade some extra Campine breeders here to have their coordinates added to campines.tumblr.com/worldwide. The problem of not finding any breeders is just too common not to do anything about it.

 

[stvnschnell]

Drieslag, thanks for the info. I checked out your Tumblr site the other day. You've done nice job with it. The history of the breed that you put together is just amazing!

 

[Drieslag]

Many thanks, but the respect goes to the early Campinists who 'vigourously' wrote down the history and start of the breed around 1910, I mean B.A. Gates, C.A. Phipps, F.L. Platt, and the English Edward Brown and Rev. E. Lewis Jones. All I wrote can be found in their catalogues and books. For people who are interested, a lot can be found on these pages:

- http://archive.org/details/catalogueofsilve00phip
- http://archive.org/details/textbookcatalogo00phip
- http://archive.org/details/campinehistory00gate
- http://archive.org/details/cu31924003118621

 

[rdilbarova]

Okay guys I have a chick that i think is gold campine, is it, and if so what gender, its 2 weeks old

Not sure if anyone replied to you but that's a Sicilian Buttercup- very beautiful bird with a unique comb.