Golden Comet Help

[tstiles01]

Hi I have a really crazy question to ask.
I have raised New Hampshire Reds and White Rocks for the pourpose of making Golden Comets. Well with that said when hatching these fertale eggs the are coming out looking like Cream Rhodebar. When the males should be coming out white and females should be red with white tips on tail and wings, The males are coming out with blackish grey barring and females with cream barring.So here is what I am thinking. I bought my chicks from Welp Hatchery I am figuring that they used some type of barred Rock to make the reds there for making them not pure breed. My question is how many generations do I have to breed to make them pure breed.( New Hamp Reds and White Rocks)
Thanks

 

[Cowgirl71]

Is there any chance the chicks were sired by something other than your New Hampshire rooster? The eggs can remain fertile from the previous rooster for a month or more. Or maybe there's a young rooster in with the White Rock hens that you don't think is fertile yet but is? Or maybe there was a mix-up and you accidentally incubated eggs from different birds?

Otherwise, I'm baffled. Barring is very dominant. I don't see how your NH rooster could have the barring gene without showing it himself. But if you're getting barred pullets then their daddy has a barred gene. It's actually somewhat common for White Rock hens to carry the barring gene, but if that were the case you'd be seeing barred roos and non-barred pullets.

How many chicks have you hatched from this cross? Pics please of chicks and parents?

 

[tstiles01]

Here are pics I have hatched out atleast 100

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[Michael OShay]

Hi I have a really crazy question to ask.
When the males should be coming out white and females should be red with white tips on tail and wings, The males are coming out with blackish grey barring and females with cream barring.So here is what I am thinking. I bought my chicks from Welp Hatchery I am figuring that they used some type of barred Rock to make the reds there for making them not pure breed.

White Rocks are not reliable for producing Red Sex Links unless you know their history and know that they carry the silver gene needed to produce Red Sex Links. Because the breeding of White Rocks has been so convoluted, and because they were origins began with Barred Plymouth Rock stock, they often do not carry the silver gene and therefore cannot be used to produce Red Sex Links. Ideal Hatchery uses White Rock hens that carry the silver gene in producing RSLs which the hatchery markets under the label Brown Sex Link. Also the Hubbard Golden Comet (not to be confused with the Golden Comet, which is a Production Red roo X Rhode Island White hen) uses a White Rock hen that carries the silver gene. If you want to make sure that the hens carry the silver gene, you should use Rhode Island White, Silver Laced Wyandotte, Delaware, or Light Sussex hens. All of these breeds carry the silver gene necessary for producing Red Sex Links.

 

[Cowgirl71]

Very pretty birds. How old are the offspring in these pics?

How sure are you that the offspring are out of your New Hamp roo and the White Rock hens? Is there any chance these are out of the White Rock roo and the New Hamp hens? That would make a lot more sense......

 

[keesmom]

This thread may help, if you haven't found it already,

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/261208/sex-linked-information

 

[Cowgirl71]

White Rocks are not reliable for producing Red Sex Links unless you know their history and know that they carry the silver gene needed to produce Red Sex Links.  Because the breeding of White Rocks has been so convoluted, and because they were origins began with Barred Plymouth Rock stock, they often do not carry the silver gene and therefore cannot be used to produce Red Sex Links.  Ideal Hatchery uses White Rock hens that carry the silver gene in producing RSLs which the hatchery markets under the label Brown Sex Link.  Also the Hubbard Golden Comet (not to be confused with the Golden Comet, which is a Production Red roo X Rhode Island White hen) uses a White Rock hen that carries the silver gene.  If you want to make sure that the hens carry the silver gene, you should use Rhode Island White, Silver Laced Wyandotte, Delaware, or Light Sussex hens.  All of these breeds carry the silver gene necessary for producing Red Sex Links.

Very true!

However in order for both genders of the offspring to be barred the rooster needs to be barred as well. A hen will pass her barring gene to her sons, but NOT to her daughters (this is the secret of making a black sexlink). A rooster will pass the barring gene to both genders. So I just don't see how a New Hamp-looking rooster can sire these barred babies. I'm baffled.