Goose Genetics

razvanM

Chirping
7 Years
Sep 14, 2012
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Hi evreyone,I need some goose genetics help.I have some heritige piebald auto-sexing geese(ganders white,geese piebald tricolor white,blue and grey).And I am getting some performat hybrid geese.From other breeders who had the hybrids,I know they are extraordinary birds,fast growth,lay twice a year,large size and fast growth etc.I heard they were highly fertile,but the offspring resulted from them were completly infertile.So my question is if the 2 breeds would be crossed(hybrid x heritage) would result geese that are fertile for many generations like the heritige or will be infertile like the ones obtain from hybrids ? I really need your help,my farms future depends on what you say.Thank you guys and gals !
 

pete55

Songster
8 Years
Feb 19, 2011
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Suffolk, UK
Hi

It really depends on what you mean by Heritage Geese (not a UK breed I'm aware of) but assume they must be like Pilgrims in being auto-sexing.

Secondly what Hybrids are you considering? What are the original parent stock?

As your Farm's future depends on your decision I think you need to consider what you're farming for. Is it the meat market, egg production, pure breeds etc. That would then guide my decision into what to keep.

Pete
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razvanM

Chirping
7 Years
Sep 14, 2012
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For meat of course.And the hybrids,they probably came from grimaud freres,dont know.
 

pete55

Songster
8 Years
Feb 19, 2011
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Suffolk, UK
Unfortunately I don't breed for meat so I'm unable to advise from experience but usually the production Embdens are seen as a good breed. They're hardy, pale flesh and the Danish lines were bred for rapid growth and good fertility. I believe they were called the Legarth strain. Also as they're medium to large birds they appeal to the meat market later in the year.

With a keen eye you'll also be able to visually sex the goslings. I have no idea where you mean the Hybrids you saw came from.
 

razvanM

Chirping
7 Years
Sep 14, 2012
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They are 2 hybrid types,for foie gras and for meat and here is from where they come from http://www.grimaudfreres.com/en/products/geese/
They can reach up to 12 kilos dressed weight at 1 year,I have a fried who had a gander to grow to that size.They are good fertile birds too but their offspring are sterile.So if crossed with another breed will the offspring be fertile ?
 

pete55

Songster
8 Years
Feb 19, 2011
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Suffolk, UK
They look like the Embdens (white) I wrote about and Production Toulouse (grey). When crossed they usually produce fertile cross breeds with good laying potential.
 

razvanM

Chirping
7 Years
Sep 14, 2012
115
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Thank you very much.And another question,here are pics with a few of my auto-sexing geese
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/603341_454496454613840_1734074629_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/154426_454496501280502_162013308_n.jpg
As you can see the geese have a nice sort of dilute color,but only in females,how I can get that on males too ? Do I have to cross them with a grey gander ?
Oh and the guy who will bring my the hybrid geese told me that the toulouse will look like the ones in this video
http://www.universcience.tv/video-quand-les-oies-nous-eclairent-524.html
and the white ones will be legarths.Cat wait to cross them with my heritige birds.Hopefully I will get a dewlapped tufted gander with that beautifull dilute color.Can this acctually happen ?So again how can I make males have that color too ?
Thanks for help.
 

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