Goose loves me - hates my girlfriend (and the bin)

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Hi there,

Sorry for the long post - I need to put some background detail before I explain the problem.

We've recently acquired an 18 year old Embden gander (although he weighs 7.3KG and I gather they're supposed to be heavier - he looks like one and is significantly larger than the other geese that live here.) He showed no behavioral problems in the first few days and came with a male Aylesbury cross that had lived together for several years. They were quite a sweet little 'n' large friendship although on day 2 the Aylesbury cross buddied up with our female white campbell and so has left the Embden (I'll refer to him as Biggles from now on - I kept saying big goose to him and that sounded similar) to do his own thing. We have several different breeds of geese and ducks here although all the resident geese are male (Greylag and Canada) and whilst half his size - they can chase him and he'll run immediately with apparent fear of them. Geese chasing aside, he sits around the place, eats grass occasionally and enjoys coming in to snack on mixed grains rather than use the feeders around the ponds. He'll have a good swim, enjoy the safe surroundings but doesn't socialize. I have a few years experience of living amongst fowl but the wild and resident geese do a lot more walking about and nibbling. Perhaps it's his senior years that makes him not wish to wander to far from his chosen seating areas.

Background done - I work from home and whenever I walk past him I tend to say hello, rub his chest and ask if he's ok and all that. He appears on occasion to do what I assume is a courtship ritual of lowering his head to the ground and rubbing the side of his head on the ground before lifting and repeating but on the other side. He sometimes if I crouch down tries to climb onto my legs which I stop and have considered this as an amorous act which I of course don't want to confuse him - or have goose feet on my jeans. I've not experienced this with the other geese here, two of our greylags are like little dogs and are incredibly tame but without peculiar behavior.

Again, he was fine on the first few days of being here but nowadays he wants to attack my girlfriend and with malice in his eyes. He bites and whacks her with much aggression. We've dressed her up with thick clothes, boots and gloves and made sure she commands the position and pushes Biggles away whilst looking tall and large but to no avail. She can wear my boots and Biggles will bite away at them and get quite angry whilst doing so. She can take them off, I put them on - he's fine and calm. Oh - and earlier I pulled the blue wheelie bin back to the house and Biggles went crazy - wings out beating back and forth on the plastic yet was fine when I put the bin down and walked away from it.

What should we do to calm this bonkers goose please? We have set the environment up here as a wildlife sanctuary with the aside benefit of domestic duck/muscovy eggs as opposed to being a proper farm so the oven is not an option. The dynamic with all the breeds is mostly harmonious but we weren't expecting the problem to be between bird and human.

Thanks for reading - and for any help you can offer.

Graham
 

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I do feel for your girlfriend as I’m sure a goose vengeance isn’t pleasant.... but, may I also just say aweeeeeee. He has decided that you are basically his girlfriend and anything that is near you (besides him) needs to go because it might take you. I don’t have a ton of experience with a gander acting like this as mine doesn’t do this. I do hope someone can help you though.. best of luck.
 
I'm sorry, but I did get a good laugh out of your very vivid description :) Oh, your poor girlfriend. And your poor pant leg!
I agree with Lamaremybabies that he appears to be in love with you.
My only thought is, and I'm sorry if I missed it, do you know anything about where he came from? Is he used to being around women?
 
It really does sound like you're his chosen one. It's breeding season, so chances are he might be like this only for a few months of the year - maybe you (or rather your girlfriend) can live with that?

Another option could be getting him a real goose as his girlfriend. Do you know his history - has he ever been around other geese, or was he imprinted on humans only?

I once had two ganders who got along beautifully until Spring, when one of them fell in love with his own reflection in the window. He'd park in front of the window and spend all day trying to lure the love of his life out on the lawn - unless the other gander got too close, then he'd viciously attack him and try to chase him out of the yard. When it finally dawned on me what the problem was, I covered all goose-height windows, and the two ganders were friends again within half an hour. So another solution could be you staying totally away and out of sight from him. Probably the most impractical solution ...

Regarding him not being as active as the other geese: I think you're right about his age being an issue. Embden geese have been bred for weight, not for longevity. Many domestic geese are built to be too heavy for their frames, so he might have stiff or achy joints from supporting all that weight. Due to her co-owner being way too generous with treats, my own Embden-type goose has gained weight during this winter and now weighs more than 8 kg. She normally weighs between 6 and 7 kg., and she's now way slower than usual, and she can't keep up with me when we go for a walk. She's only 5 years old, so I've (again) dictated a strict diet for her. I don't think your goose looks overweight at all, but his legs are probably beginning to show some mild signs of wear/osteoarthritis.
 
Thanks very much to you all for your helpful replies.

I do get the sense that he considers me his mate but Rebecca lets him in to the food on occasion and so he should be associating her with friendly and useful actions. The bin attack yesterday made me feel it's not Rebecca he hates - but anything that is my size as some of you have suggested. I've spent more time with him and I don't think my reflection is too goose-like. Although I do have 2 webbed toes on each foot!

We got him from a local rescue center as the previous owners were moving to a place that couldn't cater for wildfowl but that's about the extent of the history we received. The rescue center staff are coming over in a few days to see what they can suggest. They were a little sad to see him go as they had him for 3 or so months but they hadn't had any attacking behavior from him.

They do have a female Embden available which is almost one year old. Initially we thought it might be good to get her so he has some company from his own breed but we can't have him being aggressive to everyone and all other birds if he switches to this new goose. All of our resident geese are male so my experience doesn't extend to how they act in a bond. We have wild greylag and egyptian geese that fly in every day and they often have shouting matches but they can of course fly off if they're not happy but residents need to get on. That said, if we did get a female for Biggles I'd have to remove any eggs to control the numbers. I feel a little shameful removing from the muscovies as they're very broody but it has to be done. I don't want a fight from the Embdens each time I collect those ones. Do Embdens go broody or like Aylesbury/Campbells - not care really and lay them in different places most days?
 
Thanks very much to you all for your helpful replies.

I do get the sense that he considers me his mate but Rebecca lets him in to the food on occasion and so he should be associating her with friendly and useful actions. The bin attack yesterday made me feel it's not Rebecca he hates - but anything that is my size as some of you have suggested. I've spent more time with him and I don't think my reflection is too goose-like. Although I do have 2 webbed toes on each foot!

We got him from a local rescue center as the previous owners were moving to a place that couldn't cater for wildfowl but that's about the extent of the history we received. The rescue center staff are coming over in a few days to see what they can suggest. They were a little sad to see him go as they had him for 3 or so months but they hadn't had any attacking behavior from him.

They do have a female Embden available which is almost one year old. Initially we thought it might be good to get her so he has some company from his own breed but we can't have him being aggressive to everyone and all other birds if he switches to this new goose. All of our resident geese are male so my experience doesn't extend to how they act in a bond. We have wild greylag and egyptian geese that fly in every day and they often have shouting matches but they can of course fly off if they're not happy but residents need to get on. That said, if we did get a female for Biggles I'd have to remove any eggs to control the numbers. I feel a little shameful removing from the muscovies as they're very broody but it has to be done. I don't want a fight from the Embdens each time I collect those ones. Do Embdens go broody or like Aylesbury/Campbells - not care really and lay them in different places most days?
It's mating season and my jumbo Pekin attacks my wife and boy is he quicker than her and has some skills he doesn't do this to the kids or chickens or other ducks just my wife
Her name's Rebecca by the way lol
We have had him 4 years now and it's been every spring but he's getting tougher by the season I thought he wanted to mate with her or something but this whole thread actually makes more sense I'm going to test the theory by sending her out there without me to talk to him
By the way just the sight of my wife and he's redone lol
 

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