Goose - What is this, how did it happen, what do I do about it?

[BantamWhisperer]

Yay! Congrats! Now get some oil and wear a latex glove and lube the inside then gently push it back in!

Good luck! And yes she should have some more eggs

 

[casportpony]

People, please... Use a *proper* water based lubricant, not oil! Do like the OP did and use something like KY Jelly.

 

[CottonGinWaste]

When mine have egg issues, I give them one each of my calcium and d pills. Then I break out the OB lube, squirt some in the vent and check for stuck eggs. If no egg is present, and they have prolapsed, I apply prep h and place them in a place away from other birds. If I find and egg, I will give them a bath or steam the bathroom and see if they can pass it. The calcium seems to help them pass the egg, but I'm not sure why.

. . . "calcium and d pills" . . .

Sounds like something that I should keep in my chicken 1st aid kit. Are they OTC stuff? Dosage/mg/mcg???

Thanks

 

[casportpony]

 . . . "calcium and d pills" . . .

Sounds like something that I should keep in my chicken 1st aid kit.   Are they OTC stuff?  Dosage/mg/mcg???

Thanks

I just use the stuff I bought for me... 500mg calcium and 1000 I.U. D or D3, have to look. FWIW, an old pigeon breeder told me that's how they treat their egg bound pigeons, so I thought I'd try it. So far it's worked for me on several chickens and a couple of turkeys, but I have no scientific data to back me up, just what websites say about the link between egg problems and calcium. I think that it works in chickens in two ways... 1) It helps them lay down shell and 2) it helps them push the egg out, sort of like the birthing hormone, oxytocin, but that's just a guess.

 

[CottonGinWaste]

Appreciate the info, I'll get some to have on hand. Interesting that there's such an immediate response to the calcium.

 

[casportpony]

Appreciate the info, I'll get some to have on hand.  Interesting that there's such an immediate response to the calcium.

I couln't believe it myself, but I noticed the same thing as the OP, and I had not given mine warm baths, so I think a combo of the two is probably the best "cure".

 

[Haunted55]

I am so happy for you. Give yourself a pat on the back for doing *all* of the right stuff. Keep a close eye on her and her prolapse, she might have more eggs to pass over the next few days. If you feel like the calcium helped, please share that experience with others if you get the chance. You're now a pro, lol!

I just use the stuff I bought for me... 500mg calcium and 1000 I.U. D or D3, have to look. FWIW, an old pigeon breeder told me that's how they treat their egg bound pigeons, so I thought I'd try it. So far it's worked for me on several chickens and a couple of turkeys, but I have no scientific data to back me up, just what websites say about the link between egg problems and calcium. I think that it works in chickens in two ways... 1) It helps them lay down shell and 2) it helps them push the egg out, sort of like the birthing hormone, oxytocin, but that's just a guess.

Yay! Congrats! Now get some oil and wear a latex glove and lube the inside then gently push it back in!

Good luck! And yes she should have some more eggs

After she passed the egg in the tub, I brought her back downstairs and slathered her up with honey. Back into the dog crate where she was watching TV with my husband. Maybe 15 minutes later out comes another egg. I'm waiting for daylight to give her a real good going over. From what I could see so far this morning, I'd say we are not over it yet.

 

[Miss Lydia]

After she passed the egg in the tub, I brought her back downstairs and slathered her up with honey. Back into the dog crate where she was watching TV with my husband. Maybe 15 minutes later out comes another egg. I'm waiting for daylight to give her a real good going over. From what I could see so far this morning, I'd say we are not over it yet.

Oh my goodness H, another egg? wow I'd deff keep up the calcium with her till you know for sure she has laid all those that were backed up. Bless her heart.

 

[Haunted55]

What I learned;

Water temperature is very important. She had a total of 6 long baths over the course of the day. The first ones were warm and didn't seem to do much of anything except keep her clean and moist. After getting back from the supply run, I got serious. The 3 baths she got then were very warm, as in your hand gets slightly red when you hold it in there. Not hot, but bordering on it.

Calcium is magic. A word of caution though, vitamin D is one that you have to be very careful of. It is a fat stored vitamin and if given in high amounts can cause serious health problems in all animals, humans included. I would not give more than one dose a day, the risks are too great for other problems to do so.

Patience and stay calm. Your bird is going to pick up on what you're feeling. If you're tense, she will be as well. She has to relax to get this job done. I sat with her some of the time and made up silly songs for her. I also gave her 'toys' to play with so she wouldn't eat the shower curtain. Massage must have helped her as well. Gentle smooth strokes on the underside of her belly to the back. Gentle is the key word here. I was so afraid of breaking that egg inside of her.

The last thing, if you are bringing an animal in from the outside, there is going to be a temperature change. Mine was major. Single digits outside and 70s in the house. Looking back over what I did, maybe the first cooler baths weren't such a bad idea. They were warm, but not as warm as the last ones and it gave her a chance to acclimate to her enviroment and relax.


My new medical supplies;


Calcium pills or liquid if I can find it

KY jelly, I believe it has more water content and would be better than oil or vaseline

Gloves

Honey, it has antimicrobial/bacterial properties and from what other's have said, will also shrink the tissue so it can go back in naturaly. While using the honey on her, she will be kept seperate from the other geese and ducks. I don't want any chances of picking.

A new addition, Vitamin E capsules 400IU break open and mix with the KY to use as an alternate to the honey, after soaks in the tub.

I added the vitamin E to get the benifits of a hemorrhoid cream. Vitamin E is fast acting in reducing swelling, it's the active ingredient in most OTC hemorrhoid meds..

 

[casportpony]

What I learned;

Water temperature is very important.  She had a total of 6 long baths over the course of the day.  The first ones were warm and didn't seem to do much of anything except keep her clean and moist.  After getting back from the supply run, I got serious.  The 3 baths she got then were very warm, as in your hand gets slightly red when you hold it in there.  Not hot, but bordering on it.

Calcium is magic.  A word of caution though, vitamin D is one that you have to be very careful of.  It is a fat stored vitamin and if given in high amounts can cause serious health problems in all animals, humans included.  I would not give more than one dose a day, the risks are too great for other problems to do so.

Patience and stay calm.  Your bird is going to pick up on what you're feeling.  If you're tense, she will be as well. She has to relax to get this job done.  I sat with her some of the time and made up silly songs for her.  I also gave her 'toys' to play with so she wouldn't eat the shower curtain.  Massage must have helped her as well.  Gentle smooth strokes on the underside of her belly to the back.  Gentle is the key word here.  I was so afraid of breaking that egg inside of her.

The last thing, if you are bringing an animal in from the outside, there is going to be a temperature change.  Mine was major. Single digits outside and 70s in the house.  Looking back over what I did, maybe the first cooler baths weren't such a bad idea.  They were warm, but not as warm as the last ones and it gave her a chance to acclimate to her enviroment and relax. 

My new medical supplies;

Calcium pills or liquid if I can find it

KY jelly, I believe it has more water content and would be better than oil or vaseline

gloves

Honey, it has antimicrobial/bacterial properties and from what other's have said, will also shrink the tissue so it can go back in naturaly.  While using the honey on her, she will be kept seperate from the other geese and ducks.  I don't want any chances of picking

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