Got 8 New Rollers Today

@Lightchick,
Pretty birds. how do they fly and roll? mine are the "stop drop and roll" style of roller, as i jokingly refer to it.

it still strikes me when my other older not considered good rollers, evade BOPs by rolling out of grasp, way of swoop,or even stoop of perigrine. my better rolling pensoms usually just outfly or mob the BOP if only one, or they get the BOP close enough to ground for the gamey bantams cats or dogs to scare or catch..
 
@Lightchick,
Pretty birds. how do they fly and roll? mine are the "stop drop and roll" style of roller, as i jokingly refer to it.

it still strikes me when my other older not considered good rollers, evade BOPs by rolling out of grasp, way of swoop,or even stoop of perigrine. my better rolling pensoms usually just outfly or mob the BOP if only one, or they get the BOP close enough to ground for the gamey bantams cats or dogs to scare or catch..
They're young so they haven't been rolling much. Their around 50-55 days old.
They do little flips but that's all I've seen.
These two pigeons mother rolls like crazy and has hit the ground a few times, but their father only does one or two rolls at a time.



Their brother and sister.
The other two are actually these two pigeons niece and nephew.
 
You may not want to fly the mother, or feed her more than normal, as she will eventually kill herself if she doesn't learn to control her rolling better. breed her best rolling young then their young, but line breed, as called, the father too. if you get genetic probs and or more roll downs, then tou can cross these two lines back again to stop more probs. this is fastest and easiest way to go for good rollers .
 
You may not want to fly the mother, or feed her more than normal, as she will eventually kill herself if she doesn't learn to control her rolling better. breed her best rolling young then their young, but line breed, as called, the father too. if you get genetic probs and or more roll downs, then tou can cross these two lines back again to stop more probs. this is fastest and easiest way to go for good rollers .
I make sure that the father doesn't roll very much.
 
Well that opens up a new can of worms, i have heard two stories on using roll downs as a breeding plan,, first to never do it.. second only if the opposite is a non or very shallow roller.. i ere on the side of not using roll downs.. JMHO but some do say it is fine to do... again i dont agree.. i dont want roll downs an have no desire to perpetuate that behaviour or tendency to do it... then again the parent bird might not roll down a year or more in the making... so you will get off spring... before you even know it happened.. go figure huh... good luck with the new birds...
 
Older rolldown effect from mature birds is part of why some won't breed/more than test breed, sell etc young, before parent stock are two years old.. pigeons don't technically mature till two to three years old as most things that can breed, but maybe shouldn't.. take your neighbors just turned fourteen year old daughter on her third kid in oven that has her thirty seven year old boyfriend living with her and fam.
 

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