Got Flogged by A rooster tonight

[ladyride]

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Dude you ever see two roosters going at it over territory? Al's roo got off light. If I ever have another roo that floggs me you can bet he's gonna get more than a boot in his rear. ....

Very well put . If you don't like what you read leave the thread. This is totally unnecessary.

 

[joshyoua_rine]

i have never been flogged. i seen this post and have heard about other people getting it. sooo.... how bad can it get does it just hurt or is stiches ever envolved?

 

[Farm_Maven]

Oh yes! stitches can very well be involved.

 

[Minniechickmama]

It all depends. We had a neighbor kid when I was young who wanted to go out and collect eggs for us. He came back with his jeans torn open and his knees bleeding like crazy. does that sound bad?

My roo only got as far a bumping hard into my leg when I would go out, but he jumped up on my daughter a few times. Luckily, his spurs are just round nubs and don't have a sharp point or it could have been bad for her. Their toenails are pretty sharp though.

 

[spiritdance]

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Yes, I guess we will. I don't think that hand nurturing is needed to "socialize" a roo, as his social structure doesn't really include humans, nor their affection. His social peers are his flockmates. Humans are merely the food source to a chicken.

wherein all modes of kindness must be dismissed as "coddling"!

One can be kind without cuddling and hand feeding treats to a roo. I'm kind to all my animals and they are kind in return. I'm kind enough to not force my idea of affection onto their life and into their space....one doesn't often see one bird cuddling with another unless they are mother and chicks, or they are beside one another on the roost and I still don't see them offering physical affection there either.

What you call socializing, I call inflicting one's idea of love onto an animal that neither wants it nor requires it. I chicken is quite content to be left alone to just be a chicken...all the other things like jumping up into human's laps or on their shoulders is learned behavior from receiving treats for the action. Even that reward system will not keep a roo from deciding to act like a roo one fine day.​

It has NOTHING to do with "enforcing ideas of love" on the animal, and everything to do with being able to walk into the run and pick up that animal anytime I choose to without having to run him down or suffer a flog! You may choose to interpret any method of socialization other than yours as "coddling" and attaching an emotional quotient to the relationship, but the proof is in the pudding, as they say. I have roosters that I can handle without fear of serious injury, that I can pick up and place in a breeding cage without running a marathon, and that I can medicate, treat for mites, etc., with little stress for me or the roo, and I achieve this with consistency from chickhood on. I get them used to handling regularly, whether it's to have me clip their nails, trim their wings, feed them the occasional treat, or just turn them upside down and "tickle" them (less stressful for them when the face "the cone" eventually). And if this is such a bad thing, all the people I know who show their birds are obviously delusional, since they spend a great deal of time getting their birds, hens and roos alike, used to handling for the show circuit. And as for "cuddling" a roo, it is just one more way to accustom that bird to the idea that I am not a threat to him or his hens when I need to handle them. If the feel of soft feathers and a mushy bird body brings me a moment of pleasure, so what? It is quite apparent from the condition and behavior of my roos that it does them no harm, and it makes me smile. I'm selfish enough to not give one flip whether anyone else thinks it's "appropriate" or not, as long as my birds are good with it.

 

[welasharon]

It can be pretty serious. When we were kids a friend's rooster had been taunted and picked at till he was so mean. We would run around the house from him (adding to the aggravation) till he figured out he could cut through under the house and caught one of her younger brothers. He had to have stitches in his back and had punctures at the base of his skull. It is bad enough for adults but can be very serious for small ones especially since their eyes are so much closer to the spurs. Those spurs can puncture as well as rip flesh. I don't fear a rooster but I have a healthy respect for them. If one were to attack me I would defend....to whatever degree necessary. Some roosters DO NOT back down. I would break his neck if that is what it took. I am a foo foo chicken owner and a chicken hugger as well but I am not naive. I have a feral rooster that took up here and am full aware of what they are capable of. I do not pick him up and I respect his space but I will not back down from him either.
sharon

 

[welasharon]

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ETA: Sorry Al...nothing is better than some naked neck showgirl sugar.....LOL

 

[M.sue]

Okieclucking.....You act/think these guys are going into those pens and just looking for a sparring partner because they have nothing else better to do!. They are there to to their job peacefully and go about business as usual. They don't wake up and say, "Gee it's Tues. and I don't have nothing to do so I'm gonna go pick a fight and kick some Roo." They only resort to this method which is the last attempt to get a little respect out of the unruly nasty roo. Allowing a nasty Roo to flog you over and over is like an abused house wife who won't leave her spouse for fear of what will happen next. That is what the Roo wants.... fear! Yeah some Roos are very passive, & pretty, I've seem them and I've know them but there are the nasty, bold, arrogant ones that don't think twice before knocking you to your knees. These guys/gals are breeders, farmers, etc... they care for their livestock in all respectful means....feed, water, vac. worm, etc.....whatever it takes for proper and humane upkeep. It's their business/lively hood. Why would they jeopardize that for no reason? I've never been attacked by a roo and don't plan on it either. I've seen it happen and it's not pretty .....others have described their attack experiences quite well! I have a young Roo with an attitude. I'll follow the prime suggestions to correct this behavior which is, stalking, walking, following his moves. Doing so is not mean nor abusive. It's letting him know I'm Boss & I'm watching you. But let me tell you that the minute he flogs me or goes after one of my kids for no apparent reason....I will not hesitate to give him a boot which is much better than strangling his neck!

 

[centrarchid]

Is there an advantage to having roosters with propensity to attack keeper? If not, then a potential long-term solution is selecting manfighters out of the gene pool. The behavior does respond to selection pressure.

 

[spiritdance]

M.sue :

Okieclucking.....You act/think these guys are going into those pens and just looking for a sparring partner because they have nothing else better to do!. They are there to to their job peacefully and go about business as usual. They don't wake up and say, "Gee it's Tues. and I don't have nothing to do so I'm gonna go pick a fight and kick some Roo." They only resort to this method which is the last attempt to get a little respect out of the unruly nasty roo. Allowing a nasty Roo to flog you over and over is like an abused house wife who won't leave her spouse for fear of what will happen next. That is what the Roo wants.... fear! Yeah some Roos are very passive, & pretty, I've seem them and I've know them but there are the nasty, bold, arrogant ones that don't think twice before knocking you to your knees. These guys/gals are breeders, farmers, etc... they care for their livestock in all respectful means....feed, water, vac. worm, etc.....whatever it takes for proper and humane upkeep. It's their business/lively hood. Why would they jeopardize that for no reason? I've never been attacked by a roo and don't plan on it either. I've seen it happen and it's not pretty .....others have described their attack experiences quite well! I have a young Roo with an attitude. I'll follow the prime suggestions to correct this behavior which is, stalking, walking, following his moves. Doing so is not mean nor abusive. It's letting him know I'm Boss & I'm watching you. But let me tell you that the minute he flogs me or goes after one of my kids for no apparent reason....I will not hesitate to give him a boot which is much better than strangling his neck!

I'm not sure to whom you directed this, but as for me, I don't think these guys are "looking fora sparring partner." I will do whatever is necessary to protect myself from an aggressive roo, too. But at the same time I disagree that trying to socialize a roo as a chick is necessarily "coddling" it. I have great results using a combination of reassurance (that I'm NOT a threat but AM a source of all things yummy) .,no-nonsense expectations (transgressions addressed immediately, while they're small - no "oh he's so cuuuuute when he flairs up at me), and LOTS of handling, from clipping wings to bathing to carrying around like a football or under my arm. It's really not "all or nothing." There is no "rule" that you have to either treat your cockerels like fluffy poodles or leave them to their own measures. There is an in-between that can condition most birds to be both useful and manageable.​