I actually got 3 duck orders in now -- Two to Holderreads. One has Penciled Runners and Hookbills, (I have some penciled and greys from them 2009) Beautiful friendly guys. Wanted more and loved the Hookbills, had to have some and heard they were good parents , so maybe they can be broodies for my runners. Then I ordered 8 Saxonys and 2 silkies. (I tried for silkies in 2009, but they sent me mini-Overbergs for a sub. which are wondrful little birds very pretty, tame, went broody and hatched 2 runners for me. And today I ordered frome Sandhill Preservation. In spite of reading some negative here (mostly from chicken people), and some good , duck people .I finally decided too as they were the only ones I could find Grey runners. I have one verynice pair and a slightly defective female from Holdereads Show quality breeders. (Runners have lots of flaws). Anyway I couldn't find anybody on the net who sold upright runners, so I am trying Sandhills', plus some more penciled (figured if I order from both I should be able to get some. and added more Hookbills for the same reason. I figured if I ordered less breeds per order I might get them easier, aI also put april or any date on all the orders (so I have time to complete more cages.) I do forsee, having a garage full of brooding ducklings. I just set up a hardware wire circle and put shavings down and enlarge as needed Did I mentioned I also sent for 5 shetland geese ordered too?