Well thanks to everybody who recommended a Bosch dishwasher. It got delivered here last week. Yup, delivered! Didja know the delivery people don't install? So I called Mr Appliance and they sent a guy out yesterday to put it in. I LOVES it! The dw cost me about $1,000 and the install was just under $300, but I'm told it should last at least ten years so that's good and I'm happy. I told the kids if they ever need to wash dishes and we're out of soap pods, they are to wash what they need IN THE SINK. ... BY HAND!!!! Do NOT put Dawn liquid dish soap in the dishwasher. Oh, I'll let them live, I said, but they may very well wish I hadn't!