(Graphic photo warninfGleet after prolapse? Or something more?

[ntdd]

After passing a MASSIVE egg 2 days ago I think my chicken has a small prolapse... it’s “out” in the photos (that’s as far as it’s ever been) because she was annoyed I flipped her upside down late at night lol. Usually it’s inside her unless she pushes. I’ve been soaking her in warm water daily and trying to keep it clean. I wish I had taken the photo right after so it would be easier to see.
The edge by her vent is kind of rough and hard, and I can’t get the white off it. I’ve tried with water, soap, oil, antiseptic wash, can’t get it off! Ideas?
She also leaks that yellow/white stuff shortly after I bathe her and she’s messy again almost immediately. Is that gleet? No bad smell. Just that runny stuff that looks like poop?
I have had her isolated in a crate for the last 2 days, within the coop so hopefully avoid issues reintroducing her. It’s fairly dark in there. She laid one egg the day after. Nothing today.
I’ve been using triple antibiotic neosporin and today I got her some prep h to try. Is that adequate or should I be trying something else?
She is acting ok. Walks around when I let her out, always standing, will eat yummy things (very little crumble).
Her comb is not pale, but it has had a slight purple tinge to the top, which worries me... (see photo)
Sorry for the graphic photos too, I took them before cleaning her up so you could see what I was talking about.
Any suggestions appreciated! I have tried to get her into a vet but only one will see chickens in our area and they are booked solid for 5 more days
Thank you!
Also the feather loss is unrelated, we’ve been having feather pulling issues. I have also noticed she has bumble foot, the poor thing can’t catch a break!! But I am hesitant to address that until this leaking issue is solved...

 

[azygous]

There may be information in my article that can help. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...ng-from-vent-prolapse-oh-my-what-to-do.76124/

The rubbing and scrubbing may be making things worse. That tissue swells when irritated. Being very gentle is the best practice when dealing with prolapse. Also, cortisone cream and witch hazel are very helpful in treating prolapse.

Stop worrying about any substance that appears within the prolapse. Scrubbing at it isn't helpful.

There may be material still inside the oviduct that is putting pressure on the vent and preventing the prolapse from retracting. My article covers that.

 

[ntdd]

There may be information in my article that can help. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...ng-from-vent-prolapse-oh-my-what-to-do.76124/

The rubbing and scrubbing may be making things worse. That tissue swells when irritated. Being very gentle is the best practice when dealing with prolapse. Also, cortisone cream and witch hazel are very helpful in treating prolapse.

Stop worrying about any substance that appears within the prolapse. Scrubbing at it isn't helpful.

There may be material still inside the oviduct that is putting pressure on the vent and preventing the prolapse from retracting. My article covers that.

Thank you for the response. I read the article. I will try the witch hazel and cortisone cream. I tried to give her tums the first day but she had no interest. I will try harder now, how do you normally give it to them? I was thinking crushed in scrambled egg? Or syringe? Should I give her 1 whole pill?
You mentioned you used amoxicillin too, was vet prescribed? Maybe I should have clarified that I am being very gentle when attempting to clean it. No aggressive rubbing or anything like that. Mostly swirling water around it in the bath and gently patting with damp paper towels a few times a day to hopefully prevent an infection... in my mind anyways. I feel like I shouldn’t let her get covered in it? Are you saying that the “discharge” isn’t a big deal?
The actual prolapse does not protrude normally, it stays inside, but right at the entrance if that makes sense. Does it need pushed even further in? How would I know how far?

 

[azygous]

I give my chickens pills uncrushed or uncut. Just pop them directly into the beak. Chickens have no teeth so they are quite adept at swallowing things whole.

Try the calcium citrate rather than Tums. It's more easily digested and works faster. Once all material clears out of the oviduct, contractions will cease, and the prolapse should retract on its own.

If there is any sign of a broken egg where yolk may have lingered inside the oviduct, I will do a round of an antibiotic to head off a likely infection caused by the broken yolk. This is what I use. https://www.kvsupply.com/item/aqua-mox-250mg-capsules-100-count/P06184/ one capsule daily for ten days.

If there is a discharge, it may be related to material still inside the oviduct that is trying to be expelled. The calcium should help it come out. Also, the discharge depicted in your photos looks like poop associated with egg remnants that are trying to be expelled.

 

[ntdd]

I give my chickens pills uncrushed or uncut. Just pop them directly into the beak. Chickens have no teeth so they are quite adept at swallowing things whole.

Try the calcium citrate rather than Tums. It's more easily digested and works faster. Once all material clears out of the oviduct, contractions will cease, and the prolapse should retract on its own.

If there is any sign of a broken egg where yolk may have lingered inside the oviduct, I will do a round of an antibiotic to head off a likely infection caused by the broken yolk. This is what I use. https://www.kvsupply.com/item/aqua-mox-250mg-capsules-100-count/P06184/ one capsule daily for ten days.

If there is a discharge, it may be related to material still inside the oviduct that is trying to be expelled. The calcium should help it come out. Also, the discharge depicted in your photos looks like poop associated with egg remnants that are trying to be expelled.

Can there still be material inside the oviduct even though she already laid an egg since? The egg was rounder than normal and only slightly streaked with blood. I would have thought there would be yolk or slime all over it? It looked normal.
The big egg was good and truly stuck, it broke JUST as it popped out. We lubed it up and literally as we helped with the aid of a plastic spoon (suggestion from vet) it broke as it fell out. All of this was done very gently btw, I think it just couldn’t fit without breaking. She’s a small chicken. She pushed it out, we just helped that little bit. I don’t think anything actually got inside her because of the way it happened. The shell was whole, so definitely no shell left inside. I couldn’t tell if there were both yolks because it fell directly into the water she had been soaking in... hmmmm. Might explain the yellow? She’s constantly got that yellow&white discharge coming out. Not lots but enough she looks like that 5 minutes after being cleaned up. The back of the egg was whole, hmm. Guess I’ll try the calcium and wait it out.
Unfortunately all I have on hand is tums, but I can try to get some of the other kind tomorrow. I am in Canada so I can’t buy the amoxicillin you use. Pretty sure there is no way to get antibiotics here without a prescription.

 

[azygous]

Being in Canada, I don't know if you can even get fish or pigeon antibiotics, but you could try phoning pet stores and ask.

Did you recall the part in my article about two back to back eggs often being the cause of stuck material in the oviduct? The first time I came face to face with this possibility was the very first time I treated a hen for egg binding and she passed the egg. Silly me. I thought she was all done. Mission accomplished. Just as I was getting ready to return her to the flock, out popped a shell-less egg.

Since then, just about every case of egg binding I've had involves two eggs. Never assume just one egg when a hen is experiencing reproductive crisis. The fact that your hen is still having issues with vent prolapse may be a clue that she's trying to expel something in her oviduct.

If she had passed the super large egg, prolapse retracted, and she reverted to her normal behavior, I wouldn't even give a thought about a second egg. But the prolapse tells a different story. Treat her as if there is still something obstructing the oviduct. If her prolapse suddenly reverses and she is her normal active self again, then you can assume her crisis has passed.

 

[ntdd]

Sorry I skimmed past that part and went straight to the prolapse heading! I’ll reread thank you for all your help. I’ll update if anything changes good or bad

 

[ntdd]

Sorry I skimmed past that part and went straight to the prolapse heading! I’ll reread thank you for all your help. I’ll update if anything changes good or bad

Found some cephalex pills (500mg) we have left over from our dog! I’ll have to look up dosing but a quick search says it is ok for avian use

 

[ntdd]

Found some cephalex pills (500mg) we have left over from our dog! I’ll have to look up dosing but a quick search says it is ok for avian use

She looks so much better tonight! Gave her the first dose of antibiotics and calcium citrate in the morning. Visible difference by night. Still leaking that stuff that looks like poop but I think its lessened slightly. Prolapse is still just visible but swelling is down. I'm so relieved its helping THANK YOU!