Gun people question..

[zzGypsy]

rebelcoyboysnb, what do you mean the state makes you disarm at the state line? Do you mean you can't carry a concealed weapon? You can openly carry a gun. I saw a video of a guy in Oregon who openly had a pistol in a holster on his belt. He was walking through a city with a video camera to see if the police would say anything. Two police officers on bicycles stopped him and said some people had complained he was carrying a gun. The police said it makes people nervous when someone openly carries a gun. The man said he always openly carries a gun. The police officers asked the man his name, but the man refused and said he wasn't required to tell the police his name unless he was under arrest. The two police officers talked to each other and told the man he could go. The laws of the United States allow a citizen to bear arms.

However, I think walking around a park with an AK-47 strapped to your back is excessive.

that's an excellent theory, and it should be true, however it's not. this is state and local municipality regulated, and it varies quite a lot.
know a guy who was arrested and is currently fighting felony charges because he was open carrying a sidearm in his own yard. happened to be the front yard, (as he moved from the front door into his open garage) and his house happens to be within (is it 300'? 1000'? can't remember the distance) of a school. that's a felony in CA. apparently your front yard is not your private property unless it's security fenced. if it's not security fenced (and locked) it's considered a public space by the laws of CA (not private property). so that made him carrying a loaded handgun in a public space inside the restricted zone around a school.

on his own property, on the walkway from his front door to his garage.

not exactly land of the free. at least not in CA.

the rules are bent to suit... because you *know* it'd be private property if someone hurt themselves on his walkway, they surely wouldn't be sueing the state of California, they'd be sueing him personally as the property owner. but then, when it comes to felony gun charges, it's public property.

as to excessive... the 2nd ammendment doesn't say anything about having a right to bear arms unless it's excessive.

was the guy being provacative? perhaps, but he's right.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Last law change we got rid of most of the school stuff. I still cant hag out at the school armed but I can carry my gun in the school if I am just going in to drop off or pick up one of the kids. But them our school restrictions had a exemption for homes an businesses in the school zone. We still have a few banned places to get rid of like chirchs(spelling?) an collage campuses but its in the works.

Yea most states cant seem to read an comprehend the "shall not be infringed" part...

 

[ChicksterJo]

That is why we are considering a move to Tennessee sometime beginning next year. We actually really like it there and we are trying to buy some land. When we move to an apartment here I will be able to get a handgun.....


zzGypsy, thank you for the info about the public property/private property in CA. It seems ludicrous that they would include your front yard as part of your tax assessment but they will not consider it "yours" when it comes to firearms. Not that I would be shooting my firearms in the front yard (I have plenty neighbors around here) but still, it should be your private property under all circumstances.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Tn is a good option. I openly carry all over Chattanooga all the time with never a issue. I have heard stories about the mall though so I cover there. Tn also has the no income tax thing going for it.

 

[ChicksterJo]

It also has lower property taxes...heh heh

I don't think many people would consider carrying an AK-47 on their backs and walk around in the streets, but it is good to know that there are some police officers who respect citizens' rights to bear arms.

When I lived in the South Side of Chicago going to school, there were many times when carrying a firearm with you was desirable, even past 8 p.m. (and in the summer these incidences went up). There were several students who were mugged and murdered just a couple blocks away from my dormitory because they were out walking home late at night, ALONE, and they did not carry any sort of weapon that could protect them from situations like that. We were given a rape whistle by the school, but I really did not know how fast the campus police would arrive to the rescue. Because I did not know how to use firearms and I don't think you can carry in Chicago, I wasn't ever found at 11 p.m. at night, alone nonetheless!

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Collages is where Ga is having issue. You cant carry on campus an because of that it is becoming the highest crime rate place in the state.

 

[Bullitt]

The shopping malls can make up their own rules. They can throw you out for almost any reason they like, because it isn't actually public space. You are in a business.

I understand that the Constitution doesn't restrict the type of gun a person owns. I meant I think that guy was being excessive when he was carrying an AK-47 on his back in a park. I guess he was trying to make a point. It sounds like they would give him the gas chamber in California. If you can't have a loaded gun on your own property, then a gun is useless for many people who follow the California law about being close to a school.

The Constitution also includes the "full faith and credit" clause that means that one state has to honor another state's laws, unless it violates a state's long standing cultural norms. I would argue that there is a long standing tradition of gun ownership in every state. I grew up in California. When I was young, my father would shoot skeet on weekends at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Yep the mall has every right to trespass anyone they want for any reason, as it should be. But as they say, concealed is concealed. Don't go there much anyway. Apparently you have to be a teen or a 80 year old track star to fit in there.


The AK guy was making a statement. He is a OC supporter that saw a crowd to talk to. He did get them thrown out of the park though. Sorta funny that those people were breaking all kinds of laws for weeks an this guyn shows up for a few hours an breaks no laws an that gets them kicked out.

I got a kick out of the chatter on the net though. Some claim he was a plant from who knows where. Some say the Mayer sent him in so the people would back him moving in. An one group says he was security for some radical that was there to speak.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

In other gun news. Google is removing all there gun related adds. They now refuse to allow gun an gun related products on there ad networks.

 

[Guinea and Chicken raiser]

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seriously? wish we lived in that world, but we don't. some people specialize in hurting the helpless. and another group will hurt them if the opportunity walks in front of them.

however, I think the original question (if that's what you're addressing) was what sort of a gun for a person with limited physical ability. a gun can be a great equalizer, allowing those of us with less physical strength to protect ourselves from those with more physical strenght, and ill intent.

okay, thanks for commenting. yes i was trying to address the original question. a person with limited ability can use any gun they think or know or believe they can use . How about a lazer button that has a harmful lazer beam? lmao...