Had to take my hen to the vet today, still don't know what's wrong with her.

[das Huhnchen]

I'm thinking something along the lines of bacterial intestinal infection, too. She is soooo much better today, no diarreah, form to her poo. She's never been off her food, and is still eating quite well. She actually was scratching around in the cage she's in, and I haven't seen her scratching for a long time. She always just kind of picked around, but didn't scratch like the others do.

I have a consult with the vet tomorrow, and I will ask her about ongoing antibiotics. I'm pretty confident I can give an IM injection if I need to, or administer fluids. IDK about tube feeding her. I'm going to do a little research on it just in case, but she's eating and drinking well, so I don't have to that right this minute.

I will also talk to vet about worming.

Thanks, Casportpony, for all the helpful information. First time chicken owner syndrome can be overwhelming and I appreciate your input.

 

[casportpony]

I'm thinking something along the lines of bacterial intestinal infection, too. She is soooo much better today, no diarreah, form to her poo. She's never been off her food, and is still eating quite well. She actually was scratching around in the cage she's in, and I haven't seen her scratching for a long time. She always just kind of picked around, but didn't scratch like the others do.

FWIW, the last time I went to the vet it was with my peafowl, two that had diarrhea. The vet took a poo sample and did a gram stain that showed a "raging gram negative infection", so they got ten days worth of Clavamox, 250mg twice a day by mouth.

I have a consult with the vet tomorrow, and I will ask her about ongoing antibiotics. I'm pretty confident I can give an IM injection if I need to, or administer fluids. IDK about tube feeding her.

Tube feeding fluids and food is way easier than giving subcutaneous fluids for me and I can teach anyone how to do it. If nothing else, have your vet sell you a catheter tip 35cc syringe and 18 french red rubber catheter.

I'm going to do a little research on it just in case, but she's eating and drinking well, so I don't have to that right this minute.

This threads have tons of great info on tube feeding:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...cken-and-give-subcutaneous-fluid#post_9910754
http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?t=7933

I will also talk to vet about worming.
Have her set you up with a good preventative program.

Thanks, Casportpony, for all the helpful information. First time chicken owner syndrome can be overwhelming and I appreciate your input.

You're welcome! I thought horses were hard, lol, poultry takes animal husbandry to a whole new level for me!
-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Here are a couple of thread about worming with Safeguard/Panacur that I started, you might find some useful info in them:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/744734/worming-with-horse-wormer
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/745210/how-to-safely-worm-your-peafowl-orally

 

[Michael Apple]

Casport, I have a question. Why worm with Safeguard or Panacur when one can worm with Enzum/Wormazole/Valbazen which is more of a broad spectrum wormer that gets rid of tapes, cecal worms, and gapes?

 

[casportpony]

Casport, I have a question. Why worm with Safeguard or Panacur when one can worm with Enzum/Wormazole/Valbazen which is more of a broad spectrum wormer that gets rid of tapes, cecal worms, and gapes?

I use Safeguard because it's what my vet recommended and it's easier to get than Valbazen (albendazole). From the quick search that I did, Wormazole is fendendazole, just like Safeguard and Panacur. http://www.norbrook.com/uploads/psds-wormazole.pdf.

Enzum, never heard of it. What's the active ingredient in it?

 

[dawg53]

Quote: Enzum is the same as valbazen.

 

[Michael Apple]

I use Safeguard because it's what my vet recommended and it's easier to get than Valbazen (albendazole). From the quick search that I did, Wormazole is fendendazole, just like Safeguard and Panacur. http://www.norbrook.com/uploads/psds-wormazole.pdf.

Enzum, never heard of it. What's the active ingredient in it?

Wormazole (not form the Irish company mentioned in the PDF, but from Paul Wood ) is the same as Enzum, which is Albendazole. There may be a bit of Ivermectin there too. Safeguard only gets rid of one type of tapeworm. I've run into my share of vets over the years that didn't know what they were doing, in addition to the wise ones. Don't just take a vet's word as gospel. Even so, with wormers like Zimectrin Gold on the market I'd prefer to kill all the worms rather than guessing which one to use for a particular type. Some of those worms aren't visible too.

 

[dawg53]

Wormazole (not form the Irish company mentioned in the PDF, but from Paul Wood ) is the same as Enzum, which is Albendazole. There may be a bit of Ivermectin there too. Safeguard only gets rid of one type of tapeworm. I've run into my share of vets over the years that didn't know what they were doing, in addition to the wise ones. Don't just take a vet's word as gospel. Even so, with wormers like Zimectrin Gold on the market I'd prefer to kill all the worms rather than guessing which one to use for a particular type. Some of those worms aren't visible too.

x2

 

[casportpony]

Enzum is the same as valbazen.

Not that I don't believe you, but is there a link anywhere that shows it with albendazole listed as the active ingredient? All I could find were links where fenbendazole is listed.

 

[casportpony]

Wormazole (not form the Irish company mentioned in the PDF, but from Paul Wood ) is the same as Enzum, which is Albendazole. There may be a bit of Ivermectin there too. Safeguard only gets rid of one type of tapeworm. I've run into my share of vets over the years that didn't know what they were doing, in addition to the wise ones. Don't just take a vet's word as gospel. Even so, with wormers like Zimectrin Gold on the market I'd prefer to kill all the worms rather than guessing which one to use for a particular type. Some of those worms aren't visible too.

Trust me I don't... I also do lots of my own research and have purchased many books on poultry diseases, medicine and pathology. I even have a scope and stuff to do fecal floats, just have to learn how to use them.