Half the flock has been ill, one after another

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One hen died, don't know why. I've created other threads, desperate for help. She did have thrust and kidneys ended up being in horribly shape, died quickly. Another hen has crop issues. This hen DID have long standing crop issues, survived, crop issue resolved but doing a lot of THIS. Standing still, often head down. She has just a few feathers coming in around her face. Obviously, something is wrong with the whole flock. Vet is little to no help and mostly unavailable.
Treat with Tylosin? Something else?
They've been given Safeguard. Yes, she's eating and drinking. Age 3.5.
 

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Hi,

You got a lot of ideas on one of your other threads. Had you treated them with Corid?

Was the Baytril your vet prescribed just for the deceased hen? Sorry about your loss. :hugs

What do you mean she's got a few feathers coming in around her face. Is she perhaps molting?

Any other symptoms other than the bloody green poop which several have said looks like cancer? Are they all pooping bloody green poop or is there some symptom in common?

After deworming, vitamins and probiotics alternate days would help give them a pick-me-up.
 
Hi,

You got a lot of ideas on one of your other threads. Had you treated them with Corid?

Was the Baytril your vet prescribed just for the deceased hen? Sorry about your loss. :hugs

What do you mean she's got a few feathers coming in around her face. Is she perhaps molting?

Any other symptoms other than the bloody green poop which several have said looks like cancer? Are they all pooping bloody green poop or is there some symptom in common?

After deworming, vitamins and probiotics alternate days would help give them a pick-me-up.
The baytril was only for one and the vet will not give it to the others. A second hen was formerly on an antibiotic as well, a couple of weeks prior. I haven't treated with Corid since only one had blood in the stool, who has since died, and my understanding is that it's a harsh treatment. Also, I haven't treated with Corid since the vet didn't detect any parasites in her stool. I assume that would have shown up in the stool sample but that's just an assumption.
I had four of six with sour crop now. I'm not feeding bread or junk. Stools are sometimes ok, sometimes runny. I'll attach another pic. Sometimes abnormally green, sometimes not. That's been common among the flock, with just one girl being the exception. One currently has signs of an eye infection and is clearly fatigued, often standing still with her head down and seems a bit pale. That's been going on for a while and she was on antibiotics not long ago and had crop issues. I managed to get eye drops for her from a human doc but not improved yet.
All are the same age, same diet. The one who died went from being well to horribly ill within hours. IMG_20251020_184925092.jpg IMG_20251021_061753387.jpg
 
The baytril was only for one and the vet will not give it to the others. A second hen was formerly on an antibiotic as well, a couple of weeks prior. I haven't treated with Corid since only one had blood in the stool, who has since died, and my understanding is that it's a harsh treatment. Also, I haven't treated with Corid since the vet didn't detect any parasites in her stool. I assume that would have shown up in the stool sample but that's just an assumption.
I had four of six with sour crop now. I'm not feeding bread or junk. Stools are sometimes ok, sometimes runny. I'll attach another pic. Sometimes abnormally green, sometimes not. That's been common among the flock, with just one girl being the exception. One currently has signs of an eye infection and is clearly fatigued, often standing still with her head down and seems a bit pale. That's been going on for a while and she was on antibiotics not long ago and had crop issues. I managed to get eye drops for her from a human doc but not improved yet.
All are the same age, same diet. The one who died went from being well to horribly ill within hours.View attachment 4236778View attachment 4236777
Corid is not harsh to them at all. It's only for coccidiosis, and the only rule is not to give them Thiamin (B1) when they're being treated. They don't always have bloody poop. Standing around lethargic is another sign. If one had it, most likely the others do. Did the vet check the stool of the one that had the bloody poop or the other one? I'd assume they'd be checking for coccidiosis. Could you call and ask if he ran the check for it?

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For eye infections, you can get some Terramycin online at some places without a prescription or regular triple antibiotic ointment without pain killer can do the same thing. Just put a little of that in the eyes a couple times per day.

When you mention all the stuff they've had, I think they need probiotics and vitamins to get back to normal, but don't do the vitamins if you're going to do Corid.

Here are two excellent crop articles. Hopefully, you figure this out!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/

https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...ntion-and-treatments-of-crop-disorders.67194/
 
The baytril was only for one and the vet will not give it to the others. A second hen was formerly on an antibiotic as well, a couple of weeks prior. I haven't treated with Corid since only one had blood in the stool, who has since died, and my understanding is that it's a harsh treatment. Also, I haven't treated with Corid since the vet didn't detect any parasites in her stool. I assume that would have shown up in the stool sample but that's just an assumption.
I had four of six with sour crop now. I'm not feeding bread or junk. Stools are sometimes ok, sometimes runny. I'll attach another pic. Sometimes abnormally green, sometimes not. That's been common among the flock, with just one girl being the exception. One currently has signs of an eye infection and is clearly fatigued, often standing still with her head down and seems a bit pale. That's been going on for a while and she was on antibiotics not long ago and had crop issues. I managed to get eye drops for her from a human doc but not improved yet.
All are the same age, same diet. The one who died went from being well to horribly ill within hours.View attachment 4236778View attachment 4236777
Corid is not a harsh treatment. Done properly, it's actually pretty benign.
  • Clean out your waterers, refilling them with water treated with Corid. ALL water sources must be treated so you know they're getting it every day. Follow the instructions on your packaging for duration. Some call for a few days, some for a week.
  • On the first day, use an eyedropper or straw to lay a drop or two of undiluted Corid alongside the beak of each bird. They should swallow it reflexively. For really sick birds, this can be repeated daily until you see improvement.
  • When treatment is completed, refill all waterers with fresh, untreated water and GIVE YOUR BIRDS A POULTRY VITAMIN to prevent their systems from crashing. Do NOT use vitamins or medicated feed during treatment. It will completely cancel out the Corid!

IMPORTANT NOTE:
The last step is critical, but many miss it. Amprolium (Corid's active ingredient) destroys the B vitamins that coccydia need to survive, but your birds need it, too. A Vitamin complex puts their system back in balance so they don't "crash." The crash is the dangerous part, not the treatment!
 
I agree with what others have said about Corid. It’s usually the first step I take when I find a puffed up chicken or bloody stool because it is not harsh and it doesn’t hurt to give it to them even if they don’t have an issue. Cocci are bacteria from what I understand, not parasites. They are present in soil and chickens at all times but problems occur when there is an overload and corid is a very safe, effective way to deal with it not to mention an easy way to check something off the list—if you do it an it helps, then you have healthier chickens. If you do it and it doesn’t help, you have ruled something out.
 
1. So it wouldn't have shown up on the stool sample test?
2.. And should treat even the seemingly normal/healthy hen?
3. Can I give monistat while doing Corid?
4. What vitamins or minerals do you recommend for after? Poultry cell? And do I just start that the day after they are done, and for how many days?
5. I assume I do the moderate 5-7 day dose, THEN the vitamins and not continue with the prevention dose,m
 

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