Hands on hatching and help

[BigWeenMachine]

I've got a circulated air incubator that fluctuates like crazy. So I have been trying to keep it at 98.5-99.5 but there are hot and cold spots all over in it. Humidity is 75%

 

[AmyLynn2374]

this is Ali (the Pekin) and Canella (f/w-choco runner) ali is 12 days old and canella is 4 days old
this was them 2 days ago. Adorable

How sweet!

My last pipped egg is pipping on it's side. Should I roll the pip up to the top or leave it be???

How hands on are you? lol I roll mine back over if a pipper gets rolled. Is it neccessary? Probably not, but I feel better.

Im so sad, i went to ck on pipping and zipping RD. & the membrane was split a tiny bit and the shell was off all arond zipping area, but i noticed it was not moving, so i listened to it w/my stethoscope, no sound so i gently pulled the shell off and it ws dead.
why did it die? it has only been a couple of hours since it started to pip, zip and die.. its not like it was many many hours???
I dont know why the membrane is so thick and rubbery looking?
any suggestions?

Sorry to see that. The membrane should be papery white. The fact that it looks pretty tough could have something to do with it. It could have exhausted itself trying to get through it. The chick could have been just too weak. It's hard to say.

Ok helpful ones, just had a chick that pipped the pointy end and hatch, part of the yolk sac has not absorbed. It is in a glass in the incubator on a warm wet paper towel. Any thing else I need to do?

Sounds like you've done what you can at this point.

Hi guys.
I tried looking up pics or examples of a good air cell verses detached one, but it's almost confusing me more? I don't see a blood ring, and there's def viening. My humidity has been consistent. I don't remember other hatched eggs looking like this before?

What day is it on? It's hard to see anything in the pic.

Question- Does making a safe hole delay the hatching egg??
I'm asking because I have a shipped duck egg on day 27. Inner pip not external pip. There are large veins and the duckling is alive. BUT there is also some free fluid in the air cell. It looks like clear yellow fluid.
Do I need to make a safe hole?? And what is the fluid?? Any ideas??

Could not get the fluid to show up in a pic. The ducklings head is on the right.
Thanks Linda

Well, "they" say that it's the co2 build up that propells the chick/duck to make the external pip. So if you use that logic then it's understandable to conclude that by adding a hole then yes, it would. Does it for a fact?

Sometimes it might extend a chick's chance to get out by giving it a little extra air before it sufficates giving it more time to externally pip, but it's a tough call. If you are worried about extra fluid in the egg you can hatch it upright in a cut down carton to give it a little more chance to hatch w/o excess fluid finding it's way to the air cell.

 

[BigWeenMachine]

How hands on are you? lol I roll mine back over if a pipper gets rolled. Is it neccessary? Probably not, but I feel better.

Ummmm, I don't know I guess. I've opened the bator a couple times to take out the chick and snag the hygrometer for the other bator but thats it. I'm getting antsy and tired of waiting for them to hatch though so I might start pulling them out to tap on them and see if they are still alive. They havn't even opened a hole yet where they pipped so I wanna check em.

 

[BigWeenMachine]

One is at 31 hours since pipping, one is 27 hours and the other one happened sometime overnight so at least 9 hours. I don't wanna help them get outta the shell though cos I don't wanna make em bleed but I do wanna see if they're still okay.

 

[caesargirl]

Just candled my bator eggs. All are alive still... I do believe I have one stuck on one side.... I've upped the humidity a little. The ones under any of the birds are great...!

So, what causes the sticky goo to manifest?

 

[Sarkchick]

Well, "they" say that it's the co2 build up that propells the chick/duck to make the external pip. So if you use that logic then it's understandable to conclude that by adding a hole then yes, it would. Does it for a fact?    Sometimes it might extend a chick's chance to get out by giving it a little extra air before it sufficates giving it more time to externally pip, but it's a tough call. If you are worried about extra fluid  in the egg you can hatch it upright in a cut down carton to give it a little more chance to hatch w/o excess fluid finding it's way to the air cell.

Thank you, I have the cut down cartons. It was in one until 2 days ago. Lockdown. It just seems so far behind all the other eggs. Small duckling and really noticeable veins. It's day 27. We will see. Thanks again
Linda

 

[BigWeenMachine]

Ugh, just came home to find one egg is trying to zip. Only prob is that he is zipping from top to bottom instead of across the side. Is this a problem or will he be able to still get out this way???

 

[AmyLynn2374]

So, I went ahead and candled and marked air cells. All 14 of the shipped silkie eggs that I thought were developing are. A couple of them look real faint though. Almost like the membrane is thick and makes it hard to see. I can see the veining, but not the embryo itself, so we will just wait and see. those veins have to go to some place. All 9 of the Spitzhauben eggs are developing and from what I can tell 5 out 6 of the green ones are developing. The air cells of the green ones actually look decent too. So we've made it one week so far. The air cells on the silkies vary widely, so they give me a little concern, but overall I t hink they are doing well.

 

[JillZ]

Hi all. Caesargirl, I wish I could help you. I'm definitely not an expert and get sticky and hard and gooey all mixed together, so can't really help.

It is day 20 on my 2nd hatch attempt. Last time, I set 42, ended with 34 fertile, had pretty high humidity throughout and ended up with 2 in great shape, and 1 that I helped with a rock hard membrane. He did survive and is now my fav chick, but it was a longgggg, scary event!

This time, I have kept humidity fairly low, only adding a bit of water when it hit about 25, but we've had rain throughout the first couple of weeks which really helped to keep humidity between 35-50. I candled along the way and even bought a digital scale and weighed and recorded everything. I feel like I'm pretty close to on track. On lockdown I upped humidity (with tubing into a sponge) and it has been slowly climbing from 55 to about 68 in the last 2 days. It's getting ready to rain again.

I am truly a nervous wreck right now. My daughter is visiting and she is so excited to participate in a hatch. I am even More afraid now that her expectations are high and it might be a bad hatch again.

Two questions:
First is that I am using my first shipped eggs. They were wrapped extremely well. No cracks, chips, anything. Out of 14, 12 have made it to day 18 on my last candle. They are BLR Wyandottes. I also have blue/black/splash Copper Marans, and 2 blue EEs setting. What scares me is that so many say that shipped eggs make it to lockdown and never hatch. I guess that I just don't understand why that would be on shipped vs unshipped. Yes, a few of the air cells are a little wonky, but they all seemed to do very well up to this point. So should I expect that only maybe 2 or 3 of the shipped to hatch? Or none?

Second, it is DAY 20!!!! And absolutely nothing has happened. In fact, it's actually day 20.5. Last hatch, 1 pipped and hatched on day 19 and one pipped and hatched on day 20. The third difficult hatch pipped on 20 and worked for 36 hours trying to zip until I helped him.
Is this completely unusual?

And does everyone else feel so much pressure or fear when hatch time rolls around? And does everyone feel such a sense of responsibility to almost Make the chicks live?

 

[caesargirl]

I can't answer anything having to do with shipped eggs, never had em... The desire to help the chicks. Yup! Every one of us here!!