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Hands on hatching and help

I have a chick that piped over 12 hours ago which I know isnt that long but he/she seems to have stalled out. It had a big slit in the membrain and I was able to see in there that his/her inner membrane is starting to shrinkwrap. He/she is still moving around but making no attempt to hatch. I have been misting all the eggs with warm water but Im starting to get concerned. At what point would you say enought is enough and help?
 
Haha, thanks!  Like you said the other day, my phone is also full of chick/duck pics.  Plenty need deleted because they are usually so hard to get good shots, but these were all so perfect, I couldn't decide which ones to post!  :D

And I'm so proud of that OEGB Momma.  For her first time, she is doing so well.  Lets me reach in and peek around.  My duck, on the other hand, I cannot get within 5 feet of her, and she goes all snake-neck quacking crazy on me!  They are due to hatch any time now too. 


I just went through my phone and deleted a bunch for the same reason. I take 10 pics just to get 1 decent and then never erase them all. I'm so happy to hear she's being a good mama! I know silkies have a reputation of being great mothers but not mine! They are great sitters but so far only 1/3 have actually been good mommies. I have one with chicks now that is so aloof. I have to check on them a dozen times a day. The little chicks fall down the ramp from the coop to the run and sit there peeping their heads off. I have to walk in, pick them up, put them back in with mom. She's just oblivious. I have a young pullet sitting on 3 eggs now and they are due soon. :fl maybe it's all the fluff that covers their eyes. From your pics I can already see that yours is much more alert and attentive. I can't wait to see baby ducklings!!!

this hatch is doing some odd things ha! or at least things i haven't seen yet. the one that pipped on its own is at 16 hours with no progress at all. it hasn't even shoved its beak out of the pip hole. the shell pieces are all in the same place they were yesterday when the hole was made. i took some tweezers really quickly just to remove the 3 little shell pieces that broke when it pipped. there was no break in the membrane. a little beak greeted me and pushed up on the membrane but there was no hole! its pip broke the shell, but not the membrane! so neat!! i made a tiny little tear with the point of a toothpick, and the beak smashed right through and opened up the hole! i'm betting this happens quite often, the membrane not breaking with the shell on that first pip, but this i smy first time to see it! these guys are giving me a run for my money, but i'm also learning a lot this hatch!

Yeah that happens. Each hatch is a tremendous learning experience. So all this weird stuff is actually good to witness. I know it doesn't feel that way but if you plan on hatching more (which I'm sure you will since it's so addictive) all of this will help your future hatches. :)

they both are malpositioned. holy moses, i think that safety hole might have saved them. both pipped out of the back of the egg, way out of the air cell. i'm sort of amazed by my own instincts right now, but also i have no idea what to do. i keep reading over the assisted hatching guide but it's sort of vague and i wish i had help. i think i am going to start a thread and ask for some guidance!

Can you get any pics? Just like Amy said, wrong end pippers take longer. but I'm really surprised they pipped the wrong end because they were internally pipped and peeping in the air cell, right? Have you candled the eggs? What can you see in the air cell?

My first keet is out :D

:celebrate can't wait to see pics!
 
I have a chick that piped over 12 hours ago which I know isnt that long but he/she seems to have stalled out. It had a big slit in the membrain and I was able to see in there that his/her inner membrane is starting to shrinkwrap. He/she is still moving around but making no attempt to hatch. I have been misting all the eggs with warm water but Im starting to get concerned. At what point would you say enought is enough and help?

I'm pretty sure the general consensus here is to wait till about 24 hours, but you are the only one there that can make that call. If "I" see movement every 20-30 minutes, I wait.
 
Hi! We have a single guinea that we just helped out of shell. He had pretty much stalled after yesterday afternoon. Felt his chirp might have been getting weaker. That said, everything was very dry, no yolk or anything. He is alert. We dipped his beak into the electrolyte solution couple times. He just seems very dry. He is lopsided. Is this sorta normal or what do we do now?
 


so, when i candled almost 2 days ago, what i saw was a big blob in the air cell. not a beak, i realized later. it wasn't a triangle. but the air cell had a dark mass in it on one side and i assumed it was the chick's body entering the air cell. anyway, i had all the eggs set so that the slope of the air cell was on top. both of these pipped on the bottom, a half inch or higher above the air cell line, straight through the membrane and shell. i have about a ballion thoughts running through my head right now, but the primary one is that this is my fault from day 15 on. i had 4 very healthy eggs and one that i was pretty sure was dead, but i very foolishly (man, that hindsight) decided to try to give that one egg one more shot, and i didn't raise the humidity past 50 until day 19 because nobody had pipped and i wanted to be suuuuure that air cell on that dead chick wasn't going to grow. when i made that choice, i already knew that these 2 had enormous air cells and i dramatically underestimated how much more they would grow in an 18 hour period. i think these two were on their way to proper positioning and ran out of room. though honestly, i can't be totally sure.

what i know more than anything right now is that i need to give a lot more respect to survival of the fittest and not compromise 4 healthy chicks on behalf of one that i already had assumed was dead. i'm super displeased with myself right now.

also, i redid their paper towels so that most of the membrane and opening is covered. everyone is breathing a little easier, though still quickly, beaks are moving around nicely, chirping is still happening. so i figure my job right now is to just keep the membranes from drying out and to wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. they can breathe, they are safe. as much time as i can buy them in the shell without that membrane drying out and sticking to them, the better their odds.
 
Hi! We have a single guinea that we just helped out of shell. He had pretty much stalled after yesterday afternoon. Felt his chirp might have been getting weaker. That said, everything was very dry, no yolk or anything. He is alert. We dipped his beak into the electrolyte solution couple times. He just seems very dry. He is lopsided. Is this sorta normal or what do we do now?
I've never hatched guineas but maybe @Pyxis can give some insight. I would just let him rest for now. How long has it been since he hatched?
so, when i candled almost 2 days ago, what i saw was a big blob in the air cell. not a beak, i realized later. it wasn't a triangle. but the air cell had a dark mass in it on one side and i assumed it was the chick's body entering the air cell. anyway, i had all the eggs set so that the slope of the air cell was on top. both of these pipped on the bottom, a half inch or higher above the air cell line, straight through the membrane and shell. i have about a ballion thoughts running through my head right now, but the primary one is that this is my fault from day 15 on. i had 4 very healthy eggs and one that i was pretty sure was dead, but i very foolishly (man, that hindsight) decided to try to give that one egg one more shot, and i didn't raise the humidity past 50 until day 19 because nobody had pipped and i wanted to be suuuuure that air cell on that dead chick wasn't going to grow. when i made that choice, i already knew that these 2 had enormous air cells and i dramatically underestimated how much more they would grow in an 18 hour period. i think these two were on their way to proper positioning and ran out of room. though honestly, i can't be totally sure. what i know more than anything right now is that i need to give a lot more respect to survival of the fittest and not compromise 4 healthy chicks on behalf of one that i already had assumed was dead. i'm super displeased with myself right now. also, i redid their paper towels so that most of the membrane and opening is covered. everyone is breathing a little easier, though still quickly, beaks are moving around nicely, chirping is still happening. so i figure my job right now is to just keep the membranes from drying out and to wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. they can breathe, they are safe. as much time as i can buy them in the shell without that membrane drying out and sticking to them, the better their odds.
You know what? On my last hatch I had 1 egg that I thought had pipped into the air cell. It was a thick, darker shell and I saw something in there and heard peeping. The next day nothing still but then I turned the egg over and there was a tiny, tiny crack in the bottom of the shell. I must have been seeing a part of the chick in the air cell, just like you did! It sounds like you are doing everything you can. Lots of people use the wet paper towel method. I am not a fan of it. I think it chills the egg and chick. I just make sure to keep the membrane lubed up. But that's totally a personal choice. And most of my malpositions zip on their own. A few haven't and needed to be fully assisted but you just have to wait for the veins and yolk to absorb. Hang in there, you're doing a good job!
 
You know what? On my last hatch I had 1 egg that I thought had pipped into the air cell. It was a thick, darker shell and I saw something in there and heard peeping. The next day nothing still but then I turned the egg over and there was a tiny, tiny crack in the bottom of the shell. I must have been seeing a part of the chick in the air cell, just like you did! It sounds like you are doing everything you can. Lots of people use the wet paper towel method. I am not a fan of it. I think it chills the egg and chick. I just make sure to keep the membrane lubed up. But that's totally a personal choice. And most of my malpositions zip on their own. A few haven't and needed to be fully assisted but you just have to wait for the veins and yolk to absorb. Hang in there, you're doing a good job!
YES. these are blue shells. and that is exactly what happened to me. honestly, i just started crying because i think i needed to hear someone say i wasn't a total screw up. did the one you have zip on its own?

they are moving and chirping, and everything still looks nice and wet. if it weren't for the bad positioning of the pip and me opening some of the shell up, i wouldnt have any reason at all to think they were in distress, and i am focusing myself on that. there are no signs of distress from the chicks, even if the situation looks incorrect and the information says this isn't good. as long as i see no distress from them, and the membrane doesn't dry out, we can clear all the way through the end of day 21 just like this.
 
Well he's been out of the egg maybe almost an hour now. He is upright on his own now. Looking around & chirping quite a bit & quite alert.
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I have a chick that piped over 12 hours ago which I know isnt that long but he/she seems to have stalled out. It had a big slit in the membrain and I was able to see in there that his/her inner membrane is starting to shrinkwrap. He/she is still moving around but making no attempt to hatch. I have been misting all the eggs with warm water but Im starting to get concerned. At what point would you say enought is enough and help?

My hatching book sais 12 hours but I've heard most people on here say Adleast 24 hours.
 

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