Hands on hatching and help

[Renee97038]

Thanks to all who commented on my chick on its back after newly hatched. I did as suggested and quickly opened the incubator and righted him and sure enough spraddle legged. This is the first time I have had this happen, and this hatch has 20 healthy chicks so far so I doubt the spraddle was caused from vitamin deficiency or moisture/temp problens in the incubator since the others turned out just fine.

And I "get" the name of your group now... "Hands On Hatching". I like your way of thinking.

 

[Blooie]

Hey Blooie, I just finished reading your story about Scout, your rooster, with my son and we were so sad to read the 'rest in peace' at the end. What happened to him? Sorry for being totally off topic here.

Thank you....without hijacking too much, he was culled after he attacked me and left deep wounds to my hand. He did this the morning of June 4th and was in the refrigerator, resting, that afternoon. As hard as it was to do after going through so much with him, I have two disabled granddaughters - one with mild autism (Katie) and her little sister with Spina Bifida and more severe autism. I always said, "I won't have a bird out there that I don't trust 100% " and in this case I had to put my money where my mouth was. Little Kendra isn't fast enough in her chair to get away, and might not recognize a threat anyway, and Katie is my chicken sitter when we're out of town. So we really had no option. Glad you enjoyed his story - I learned so much from him!

 

[PD-Riverman]

Thank you....without hijacking too much, he was culled after he attacked me and left deep wounds to my hand. He did this the morning of June 4th and was in the refrigerator, resting, that afternoon. As hard as it was to do after going through so much with him, I have two disabled granddaughters - one with mild autism (Katie) and her little sister with Spina Bifida and more severe autism. I always said, "I won't have a bird out there that I don't trust 100% " and in this case I had to put my money where my mouth was. Little Kendra isn't fast enough in her chair to get away, and might not recognize a threat anyway, and Katie is my chicken sitter when we're out of town. So we really had no option. Glad you enjoyed his story - I learned so much from him!

You Gotta Do What You Gotta Do!!! I been there myself but have never processed one of the mean ones--he goes to the Auction and I make sure the "meat buyer" gets him----he is then for sure heading to some ones table.

 

[ducklove290]

Does anyone know where I can buy goose eggs online with a good hatch rate? Never bought shipped eggs before so not sure where to start. thanks.b

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Thanks to all who commented on my chick on its back after newly hatched. I did as suggested and quickly opened the incubator and righted him and sure enough spraddle legged. This is the first time I have had this happen, and this hatch has 20 healthy chicks so far so I doubt the spraddle was caused from vitamin deficiency or moisture/temp problens in the incubator since the others turned out just fine.

And I "get" the name of your group now... "Hands On Hatching". I like your way of thinking.

Lol. Yup. Most sources of help and guidance are from a purely hands off perspective and I got tired of seeing hands off "authorities" on hatching literally condemning others for opening the incubator or assisting a chick or even thinking about assisting a chick. I wanted to have a place for hands on hatchers without the fear of condemnation. I am VERY hands on, anyone here will tell you and a lot aren't that different from me. I respect all philosophies, I just don't respect those who think there is only one way to do it right, (their way), and can't except other's thought process or the fact not everyone bows down to them. So, voila. We have the hands on thread. And I'd like to address the "shrink wrapping" from opening a bator. I can't believe the "experienced" hatchers still push this "myth". Shrink wrapping happens when all the moisture from the inner membrane leaves it and it literally shrinks like leather around the chick pulling the chick down with it and making it impossible to move. This does not happen in mere seconds, unless I suppose, your incubator was as arid as the Sahara. I refuse to believe people "shrink wrap" chicks from opening an incubator. I do believe that opening the bator, especially with lower humidity levels can cause the area around pips to dry out, making the fluid on the chick/membrane dry out thus becoming like glue and gluing to the chick hindering its ability to move. However it is very easy to tell membranes are drying and if one is vigilant, with little effort, can right the situation. Ok. I'll get off my soap box now.

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Thank you....without hijacking too much, he was culled after he attacked me and left deep wounds to my hand.  He did this the morning of June 4th and was in the refrigerator, resting, that afternoon.  As hard as it was to do after going through so much with him, I have two disabled granddaughters - one with mild autism (Katie) and her little sister with Spina Bifida and more severe autism.  I always said, "I won't have a bird out there that I don't trust 100% " and in this case I had to put my money where my mouth was.  Little Kendra isn't fast enough in her chair to get away, and might not recognize a threat anyway, and Katie is my chicken sitter when we're out of town.  So we really had no option.  Glad you enjoyed his story - I learned so much from him!

So, it was supposed to quote both of your quotes but apparently didn't so I'll pretend it did.
Yes, I think your namesake is the only one that knows what he's doing. I think Shadow thinks dancing around the girls is how you mate, cause that's all I ever see him do.

I won't keep an aggressive roo either. I've had to take a couple I really liked to the Amish. It's not easy, but in my opinion, necessary. To me it's no different than keeping an aggressive dog. It's irresponsible and an accident just wanting to happen.

 

[oregonkat]

Lol. Yup. Most sources of help and guidance are from a purely hands off perspective and I got tired of seeing hands off "authorities" on hatching literally condemning others for opening the incubator or assisting a chick or even thinking about assisting a chick. I wanted to have a place for hands on hatchers without the fear of condemnation. I am VERY hands on, anyone here will tell you and a lot aren't that different from me. I respect all philosophies, I just don't respect those who think there is only one way to do it right, (their way), and can't except other's thought process or the fact not everyone bows down to them. So, voila. We have the hands on thread. And I'd like to address the "shrink wrapping" from opening a bator. I can't believe the "experienced" hatchers still push this "myth". Shrink wrapping happens when all the moisture from the inner membrane leaves it and it literally shrinks like leather around the chick pulling the chick down with it and making it impossible to move. This does not happen in mere seconds, unless I suppose, your incubator was as arid as the Sahara. I refuse to believe people "shrink wrap" chicks from opening an incubator. I do believe that opening the bator, especially with lower humidity levels can cause the area around pips to dry out, making the fluid on the chick/membrane dry out thus becoming like glue and gluing to the chick hindering its ability to move. However it is very easy to tell membranes are drying and if one is vigilant, with little effort, can right the situation. Ok. I'll get off my soap box now.

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So, it was supposed to quote both of your quotes but apparently didn't so I'll pretend it did.
Yes, I think your namesake is the only one that knows what he's doing. I think Shadow thinks dancing around the girls is how you mate, cause that's all I ever see him do.

I won't keep an aggressive roo either. I've had to take a couple I really liked to the Amish. It's not easy, but in my opinion, necessary. To me it's no different than keeping an aggressive dog. It's irresponsible and an accident just wanting to happen.

Funny, my husband told me we got pregnant by washing our underwear together..... but there was that night that he danced around me too, so don't rule it out.

Anyway, back to being hands on, I just candled my 2 questionable Isbar eggs, day 10, known they had detached air sacs, and I saw lots of movement in both of them. My question is this, the air sac is at the correct end of the egg in both, but very jiggly and they are in a turner that keeps them upright but goes side to side. Come Lockdown, do I keep them upright say in a piece of egg carton till hatch?

 

[Pyxis]

Does anyone know where I can buy goose eggs online with a good hatch rate? Never bought shipped eggs before so not sure where to start. thanks.b

There's really no way to guarantee that. We could direct you to people who pack well, but the post office could scramble the eggs, the box and eggs could get damaged during shipping, something could go wrong during incubating, etc. Because of this no seller will guarantee a hatch rate.

However, I will be getting goose eggs soon from my Roman Tufted geese. If you would like some, I can put you on my list for them. Goose eggs on their own are tricky enough to hatch without shipping them though, so it might not turn out well, you just have to be aware of that.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Funny, my husband told me we got pregnant by washing our underwear together..... but there was that night that he danced around me too, so don't rule it out.   Anyway, back to being hands on, I just candled my 2 questionable Isbar eggs, day 10, known they had detached air sacs, and I saw lots of movement in both of them.  My question is this, the air sac is at the correct end of the egg in both, but very jiggly and they are in a turner that keeps them upright but goes side to side.  Come Lockdown, do I keep them upright say in a piece of egg carton till hatch?

If they are still wobbly at lockdown, I'd probably hatch upright. It's the only time I would.

 

[chicken hawk 33]

If they are still wobbly at lockdown, I'd probably hatch upright. It's the only time I would.

I hatchoose every time standing up in cartons I fine I get a better hatch rate

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I hatchoose every time standing up in cartons I fine I get a better hatch rate

I don't personally like hatching upright. Laying down is closer to natural and if you have a malpo it's harder to catch. Many people like hatching upright, I'm just not one of them.