Hands on hatching and help

[lolafanau]

Just hopping on to ask.
3 internal pipes since yesterday. 1 external pip through the night. 11 eggs in total.
Polish and ayam. Just looking for answers in case I need to assist.
How long after external pip do I help.
How long after internal pip do I help.
What about those that havent internally pipped, how long until I worry about them.

Currently at end of day 21.

 

[Redhead Rae]

Just hopping on to ask.
3 internal pipes since yesterday. 1 external pip through the night. 11 eggs in total.
Polish and ayam. Just looking for answers in case I need to assist.
How long after external pip do I help.
How long after internal pip do I help.
What about those that havent internally pipped, how long until I worry about them.

Currently at end of day 21.

The answer really depends on who is answering the question. My personal rule is, I do not assist unless the chick is strong enough to pip externally. I've never had any good outcomes from assisting a chick that didn't externally pip. Most died right away, others died after a week or so.

For an external pip, where they pip helps determine how long I wait. If they pip on the correct end of the egg (the fat, air cell end) I help after 12 hours. If they pip on the wrong end (narrow end without the air cell) I wait 36 hours. The reason is chicks that pip on the right end often pipped internally a day or so before and are closer to hatching. Wrong end pips are usually earlier in development and need more time in the egg. One thing you can do while you wait is make sure you can make sure the chick can breathe through the hole. I peel back the tiny shell pieces around the pip and make sure I can see the beak and nose holes. if you have humidity problems, sometimes egg fluids can cake up around the chick's beak and nose and suffocate it. If there is gunk, get a moist q-tip and clean around their nares (nose holes). If I do start helping I peel back the shell in small sections looking for veins in the membrane. If there are veins, the chick isn't ready.

If the chick has started zipping and stopped for more than an hour or so, help right away. This usually means that the chick is ready to hatch but the egg fluids have dried and it has gotten stuck to the membrane on the inside of the egg and can't move to finish hatching. This can happen often with incubator hatches if humidity isn't right during the whole of incubation or if your incubator dries out during hatch.

As for ones that don't pip externally or internally. I candle a few times to see if there is still movement in the egg. If there isn't movement, I wait another day and then give up.

 

[lolafanau]

The answer really depends on who is answering the question. My personal rule is, I do not assist unless the chick is strong enough to pip externally. I've never had any good outcomes from assisting a chick that didn't externally pip. Most died right away, others died after a week or so.

For an external pip, where they pip helps determine how long I wait. If they pip on the correct end of the egg (the fat, air cell end) I help after 12 hours. If they pip on the wrong end (narrow end without the air cell) I wait 36 hours. The reason is chicks that pip on the right end often pipped internally a day or so before and are closer to hatching. Wrong end pips are usually earlier in development and need more time in the egg. One thing you can do while you wait is make sure you can make sure the chick can breathe through the hole. I peel back the tiny shell pieces around the pip and make sure I can see the beak and nose holes. if you have humidity problems, sometimes egg fluids can cake up around the chick's beak and nose and suffocate it. If there is gunk, get a moist q-tip and clean around their nares (nose holes). If I do start helping I peel back the shell in small sections looking for veins in the membrane. If there are veins, the chick isn't ready.

If the chick has started zipping and stopped for more than an hour or so, help right away. This usually means that the chick is ready to hatch but the egg fluids have dried and it has gotten stuck to the membrane on the inside of the egg and can't move to finish hatching. This can happen often with incubator hatches if humidity isn't right during the whole of incubation or if your incubator dries out during hatch.

As for ones that don't pip externally or internally. I candle a few times to see if there is still movement in the egg. If there isn't movement, I wait another day and then give up.

Thank you

I've just noticed 1 has externally pipped the wrong end
The one which has pipped externally at air cell hasnt progressed yet. Will check again in the evening.

 

[Redhead Rae]

Thank you

I've just noticed 1 has externally pipped the wrong end
The one which has pipped externally at air cell hasnt progressed yet. Will check again in the evening.

Oh, if at all possible (if they aren't stuck to the shell), let the chicks kick themselves out of the egg once you assist. If you pull the shell off you can sometimes hurt their umbilical attachment point. That is less likely to happen if you let them kick themselves free.

 

[lolafanau]

Oh, if at all possible (if they aren't stuck to the shell), let the chicks kick themselves out of the egg once you assist. If you pull the shell off you can sometimes hurt their umbilical attachment point. That is less likely to happen if you let them kick themselves free.

Thank you !

 

[lolafanau]

We have one hatched

 

[MammaD4]

Hi! New chicken mom here. Have a few issues. Incubating 18 eggs. 14 made it to hatch day. 4 have been born unassisted 48 hours ago now. 2 silkies had external pips, for 12 hours but not through membranes. I assisted at 20 hours and pulled back the outer membrane a bit, but saw blood so I stopped and placed back in incubator. That was 4 hours ago. What now? There is still no progress. I see one beak and it is still moving well and peeping, just not doing anything.
Second, I candled one of the Olive Eggers this morning and still saw movement. There are no outer pips on any of the other 6 eggs though. I’m assuming I’m having some sort of incubator issues here but I don’t know what. Should I start air holes for them even without any outer pips? All eggs were placed same day, all have been treated the same. We’re on day 24 now. Help me save my chickies please!
Ive got 3 Marans hatched so far and 1 Silkie.

 

[Redhead Rae]

I generally don't touch eggs that don't pip externally. I would continue to watch and monitor the ones with external pips. You can try to do more in an hour or so.

 

[AltonaAcres]

I found this egg like this when i woke up. The crack was facing down because a newly hatched chick had rolled it over I'm guessing. It has not made progress since I woke up. Throughout incubation this egg's air cell was on the side of the egg, not the bottom. It peeped 2 times but isn't moving, struggling or pecking. I can see it's beak. I noticed the membrane had dried a little so I sprayed a little water over it. The membrane looks better now, but still no movement. What do I do?

 

[AltonaAcres]

I pulled away a few pieces of the shell that the chick had broken. Now it's just an area of membrane the size of a quarter with the hole in it that was his pip. He's peeping and I can see his body pressing against the membrane at certain intervals. Help guys! He's definitely malpositioned or something. All my other chicks would be out in minutes in this case.