has anyone ever tried to breed a PURPLE chicken

Some links and excerpts.. they don't all go together just so you know
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http://books.google.com/books?id=Wn...=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result#PRA1-PA360,M1

http://www.jstor.org/pss/985242


Man-made iridescence through the production of micro-thin layers of reflective material, as exemplified by dichroism, is thus possible. However, there are many examples of iridescence occurring in the natural world as well. The iridescent blue wings of the Morpho butterfly are a result of micro-projections of multi-layered chitin structures on the butterfly's wing. Similar projections create the iridescent colors on the peacock's feathers, the iridescent green on the necks of male mallard ducks, and the metal-like sheen from a number of species of beetles.

http://www.dichrobeads.com/what-is-dichro.html
Q. What causes a hummer's colors to have a metallic sheen?

The brilliant, iridescent colors of hummingbird plumage are caused by the refraction of incident light by the structures of certain feathers. Like any diffraction grating or prism, these structures split light into its component colors, and only certain frequencies are refracted back to your eyes. The apparent color of any particular part of a feather depends upon the distance between the microscopic ridges in its gridlike structure. The resulting colors are much more vivid and iridescent than those of birds with only pigmented feathers. Not all hummer colors are due to feather structure, however; the duller, rusty browns of Allen's and Rufous Hummingbirds come from pigmentation. Iridescent hummingbird colors actually result from a combination of refraction and pigmentation, since the diffraction structures themselves are made of melanin, a pigment.

http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/information/feathers.htm

Color
Feather color occurs because of two different phenomena. The first involves the
absorption of specific wavelengths of light by certain chemical molecules in the feathers.
The unabsorbed light is seen as colored. For example, melanins form brown, dull yellow,
or black pigments. Carotenoids form the brighter yellow, reds, and oranges. The second
phenomenon is caused by the structure of the feather. The surface layers of keratin have
many air filled spaces which form reflecting or refracting surfaces to scatter light. Again,
we see this as color. Many of the blues, some of the whites and the iridescence seen on
feathers is caused by structural pigmentation.​
 
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This is a cross from my own stock, a BR roo over a BA hen.

Can you see the green feathers with purple in the middle of them?

How would you go about getting less green and more purple?

He has alot of purple in the black areas, but its very hard to photograph.

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I would really like to know more about this and am hoping some serious breeders or genetics people will pop in.

I have been doing a bit of reading myself and found several (somewhat older) sources where they say that you shouldn't feed corn to black-feathered chickens as it will promote the purple sheen. I do not get the impression it is at all 100% diet but maybe there is some component?

Still want to know what breeds it's more common in, too. I would think maybe production lines of something, as having not been vigorously selected *against* purpleness?

PC, do silkies have enough irridescence for purpleness to really occur? I haven't spent much time looking at black silkies, I honestly don't know the answer to this.

(e.t.a for those that mentioned lavender: no, I'm talking about the darker purple iridescence on black feathers, wouldn't it be cool if it could be accentuated the way GREEN iridescence has been in sumatras or east indie ducks or like that)

Pat
 
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My Silkie does have iridescent feathers, but they do not show up well.


I'm thinking I need that book on bird colors... seems to have a TON of information of what creates colors, etc.
 
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Ok, it's all about Interference..... this is going to take me a while to wrap my brain around... but I think I may get there
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Think of glitter... anybody craft? LOL They make glitter that has different colors of interference. They may have 3 greens... a green/pink, green/blue and a green/purple. I need to look into this more. But what we need to go is figure out how to single out a interference color....
 
Question - We all see the colourful wings of butterflies and
beautiful feathers of ducks. How do u explain these "colour appearing"
phenomenons on those animals by using thin film interference?
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Sheng,

When light hits two surfaces that have a separation (one behind the other)
of about a wavelength, there can be a big interference effect in the
reflected light. Some reflects from the front surface. Some reflects from
the back surface. Because light from the back surface travels a little bit
further than light from the front, it is shifted slightly. If back and
front light waves line up with each other, you get constructive interference
(peaks with peaks, valleys with valleys). That color is bright. If the
waves are exactly out of line, you get destructive interference (peaks with
valleys, valleys with peaks). That color is dim, possibly not visible at
all. Only some colors interfere constructively. All colors hit the wing
together in the sunlight. The film thickness determines which reflect
brightly and which reflect dimly. Your eye "interprets" the combination as
a specific color. Different parts of the wings have slightly different
surface thicknesses.

Dr. Ken Mellendorf
Illinois Central College
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I do not think that the colors in animals are created
by thin film interference. Thin film interference
occurs in transparent materials that have a thickness
of about a wavelength of light -- that's less than one
micrometer thick. I do not believe that butterfly
wings or duck feathers are transparent enough, or thin
enough, to do that.
 
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Since Australorps seem to have come up a lot of times in this discussion, as having noticeable purple sheen, perhaps one could pick the purpliest Australorps you could find and then keep selecting... and as a bonus you SHOULD get a good laying line
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Pat, not sure how committed *I* am to pursuing the idea but hoping to get other people interested in trying to do this...
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