Hatch issues with Sebastopol eggs.... HeLp PlEaSe!!!

Discussion in 'Geese' started by JordanFamily, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. JordanFamily

    JordanFamily Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok so I have 9 eggs in LD and they were due on the 28th... well 1 pipped on the 28th and two pipped on the 29th... and they are still the same today... None of the others are pipped at all.... I candled all before lock down and all seemed fine at that point... I have 3 that pipped already on one side of the hatching tray in the bator and the rest are on the other side.... It is a Brinsea 190... I have humidity set at 70... I had to put in a plate of water to get the humidity to go over 64 on it's digital reading... It has water acumulating about half an inch in width around the edges on the floor of the bator and near the seal at the bottom so they should have enough humidity right? The store bought analog hygrometers I placed at the bottom read 75 to 90... 2 different hygrometers down there.... So with the water acumulation and one reading between 80 to 90 I just have been keeping the bator digitally set at the 70% for humidity... The 3 are still chirping.... The others don't seem to be doing anything at all... I do remember one of the ones that is not doing anything was moving alot yesturday..... Does any one else have this issue with the Brinsea 190 with the humidity being 70 at top where the sensor is and then higher at the bottom??? Just don't know what to do at this point??? Any ideas???? Should I make the humidity higher or lower???? When should I open it and start helping??? Thanks
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  2. TennesseeTruly

    TennesseeTruly Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 5, 2009
    Church Hill, TN
    Kristina, I don't know anything about the Brinsea but normally the humidity begins to raise when they're hatching. I wouldn't worry about the one's pipping and not hatched yet because I tell people all the time that it takes AT LEAST 48 hours for them to hatch once they pip. I've lost a couple right at lockdown or right after lockdown when my humidity seems fine so I'm not sure what the answer is. I actually just lost one of your eggs, last night and was cursing up a storm because it was seemingly fine 2 days ago.

    Hopefully someone who owns a Brinsea will come along and help you. Good luck hun!

    Laurie
     
  3. emmalynn

    emmalynn Silkies Sebbies OEGBs

    Oct 16, 2008
    Middle TN
    I think waterfowl are just hard. I have had 2 Sebstopols so far this hatch season that were peeping when I put in lockdown but did not pip and died in the shell. Double checked and bought another hygrometer...humidity is fine and still 2 dead. I have some others that hatched so fast it would make your head spin. Best of luck.
     
  4. Whiskey Bay

    Whiskey Bay Chillin' With My Peeps

    I don't own a Binsea,so can't help there...but I just went through similar with my very first time hatching goose eggs this past weekend. Started with 22,3 didn't take and only 13 made it to lockdown.All but 2 of them had pipped.9 succesfully hatched,but a one of them pipped an actual huge hole in the shell (so didnt drown or suffocate) and still died in the shell.One of them came halfway out and died.I guess they just weren't strong enough.I'm used to chicken and quail,don't think I'll be doing the goose thing again...kinda heartbreaking... [​IMG]
     
  5. The Duck ABC's

    The Duck ABC's Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I hatch a lot of ducks, but this is similar. I time from the time they externally pip. I want to see zipping along within 24 hours, and they do take up to 48 to get out. I do intervene if they are stuck in one position for 24 hours. You usually see a large hole, but they are not turning. Leaving them in this position is futile, because they will shrink wrap and die. I usually help at this time, which is rather easy. First you remove some shell to the 1/4 mark so you can see what it going on. Then I pull back some of the membrane. I stop immediately if I see blood. If I don't see any blood then I go down to the 1/3 mark and all the way to the 1/2. Just remember that you cannot stop helping the baby out once you have started chipping some shell away. The goal is to get down to the half mark, but never to pull out the baby. It needs time to absorb the yolk, and pulling it out can kill it. You stop if you see blood. Put it back into the incubator and wait 4 hours before helping along further. It's really easy to do, just remember not to rush it.
     
  6. kimberly35042

    kimberly35042 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I just hatched out 2 sebbies over the weekend. I had 28 days on Saturday, but mine pipped on 29 days (sunday) and hatched about 22 hours later, early Monday morning.
    Good luck!
    Kim
     
  7. shelleyd2008

    shelleyd2008 the bird is the word

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    Geese can take up to 3 days to hatch after pipping, so I wouldn't worry about them. If you help them you will most certainly kill them.

    Geese are not the same as ducks. [​IMG]
     
  8. Cottage Rose

    Cottage Rose Chillin' With My Peeps

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    After artifically incubating both ducks and geese for 6 years I agree ducks are not the same as geese
    when it comes to hatching out. Ducks are much more vigorous hatchers in my experience.
    Jordan Family I sense your frustration but there are just SO many variables regardless of the incubator you are using.
    I use a Brinsea Octogon 40, Hovabator Genesis and Hovabator 2362N and feel they all work about the same.
    Its extremely difficult to pin point exactly what a problem might be unless you are making some really overt mistakes
    which I doubt you are doing.
    If you read up on artificial incubation you will find there are 10 reasons why a bird doesn't successfully hatch out.
    Its like totally frustrating
    With geese I think you almost have to have a "what will be, will be" attitude and not count your chickens before they hatch.
    Geese are definately challenging.
    It's very disheartening when goslings pip internally and then die before they can get out but hang in there
    and best wishes. [​IMG]
    Strombergs has a great booklet on artificial incubation.
     

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