Hatching Eggs / Paypal CHAT Thread

[madamwlf]

Only one looks like it might have good columbian coloring, the other one looks like its going to have a lot of smut on primaries. But when you're breeding dilutions like blues, if you do the punnet square for it, you only get 50% of the blue color and 50% of the base color, so it looks like you got maybe two light brahmas? I know there's more to it than that, but I also know that you only get a certain percentage of the desired color, just like Lav splits, except maybe a little more complicated.

I only know this because I got a tutorial from Paul Smith when I was trying to decide what mix of chicks to purchase from him. You would have to know whether columbian is dominant or recessive and whether the dilution is dominant or recessive and what the columbian color is mixed with to achieve the dilution and whether that is dominant or recessive. I get completely confused and I have a degree in genetics.

And which one would be the good one? Gracious, didn't realize columbian was so complicated.

 

[rbaker0345]

Umm...please do not suggest that when it comes to a federally protected animal and on an open forum. It's not appropriate.

X2 on that, I work at a wildlife hospital and I can tell you that the day you do away with that hawk is the day you better buy a lot of freakin' mouse traps. The same thing goes for coyotes, foxes and raccoons. Don't go messing with the balance of nature or it will come back to bite you in the behind, maybe literally. Read a book by Barbara Kingsolver called Prodigal Summer, it will help you understand (and its really good).

 

[madamwlf]

Columbian is incomplete dominant. That means, a bird can look Columbian with a few leaky spots on their back when grown (one copy of Columbian gene--likely what the blue/yellow chicks are). The blue chick will not be columbian. The yellow should have 2 copies of the gene. It looks like her Columbians are not true Columbians, but only carry 1 copy of the gene each. So, they will produce 25% full Columbian, 50% leaky Columbian, and 25% plain blue. Hope that helps.

The one chick isn't actually blue. It looks a lot like the other one just more grown. So basically you spend a lot of money for crappy birds?

 

[Lilwanis]

It's been pretty quiet today. Sixty plus posts this morning, but once I caught up with that, there hasn't been much activity.

As for the BOP on my run, it's former hunting grounds were destroyed when they built a school. I don't want it to eat my chickens, of course, but I was kind of happy to see it alive and healthy. Its nest used to be in a tree in the field. I have been worried about it. I do hope it will leave my girls alone, but I am going to have to stop their free range time now that I know the hawk is back. We have plans for a much bigger and more secure run in the spring. That one was not very well planned out but needed in a short amount of time.

ETA I am still waiting to catch sight of the owls again. There was a barn owl and a great horned owl (that thing was HUGE), and a little tiny one that I didn't recognize.

 

[madamwlf]

X2 on that, I work at a wildlife hospital and I can tell you that the day you do away with that hawk is the day you better buy a lot of freakin' mouse traps. The same thing goes for coyotes, foxes and raccoons. Don't go messing with the balance of nature or it will come back to bite you in the behind, maybe literally. Read a book by Barbara Kingsolver called Prodigal Summer, it will help you understand (and its really good).

I just don't understand how that's the answer for some. We have a pair of red tail hawks that moved into the trees behind us and I love seeing them out. All of my pens are covered so I'm not worried at all.

 

[rbaker0345]

Columbian is incomplete dominant. That means, a bird can look Columbian with a few leaky spots on their back when grown (one copy of Columbian gene--likely what the blue/yellow chicks are). The blue chick will not be columbian. The yellow should have 2 copies of the gene. It looks like her Columbians are not true Columbians, but only carry 1 copy of the gene each. So, they will produce 25% full Columbian, 50% leaky Columbian, and 25% plain blue. Hope that helps.

So she should breed the two white ones and what about the leaky ones. Do columbian brahmas have to have the blue undercoat that buffs have to have?

 

[puglady]

Look what I came home to!!!

That is a hawk roosting on my, fortunately covered, run.

ummm ok, nevermind

 

[madamwlf]

ummm ok, nevermind

Why? And it's against BYC rules to suggest anything illegal. Would hate for the thread to get shut down for something like this?

 

[AyeUpChuck]

Payment received from smithyard farm! Clear pretty please!

 

[madamwlf]

Payment received from smithyard farm! Clear pretty please!

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