Heat plate vs lamp

[spartacus_63]

And there is this: (just saying)

https://www.raising-happy-chickens.com/pasty-butt.html#:~:text=Chicks looked after by a,place of the mother hen.

So you absolutely accept the word of a person with no expertise other than personal experience. Cath Andrew's is far from the absolute on raising chickens. Like the internet, not everything in books is what it may seem.
My comments have been from personal experience. I have been raising chickens as long or longer than Cath Andrew's, so there is that.
I have hatched, raised and bred chickens for years. I offer my experience in the hopes someone may benefit, just as I hope to learn from others, so the wheel is not being constantly reinvented. If you don't like or agree with the information, feel free to ignore it. Just saying...

 

[chicknmania]

Seriously, there's no reason to get snarky. No one's word is law. As I said earlier, I have years of experience too, and I offered advice from my personal experience. That's true for many people on here who offer advice. What works for one may not work for another. I offered the links as additional information that many people agree with me. I can't find anything at all about why applesauce is good for chicks or why it prevents pasty butt. I'm curious about how that's beneficial.

It's common knowledge among professionals as well as back yard hobbyists that chicks coming from a hatchery are more prone to pasty butt than those hatched under a broody. When you think about the circumstances that hatchery chicks often go through, it's no surprise that they are under more stress than the ones under momma.
Then they have to travel to wherever, often cold and under additional stress. I am not trying to play "who is best or smartest???" but I am saying that everyone's advice should be respected and appreciated...especially those who have had experience.. If you'd care to share why you think applesauce makes a difference, I'm interested in knowing.

"If you don't like or agree with the information, feel free to ignore it. Just saying..." X2.

 

[spartacus_63]

Seriously, there's no reason to get snarky. No one's word is law. As I said earlier, I have years of experience too, and I offered advice from my personal experience. That's true for many people on here who offer advice. What works for one may not work for another. I offered the links as additional information that many people agree with me. I can't find anything at all about why applesauce is good for chicks or why it prevents pasty butt. I'm curious about how that's beneficial.

It's common knowledge among professionals as well as back yard hobbyists that chicks coming from a hatchery are more prone to pasty butt than those hatched under a broody. When you think about the circumstances that hatchery chicks often go through, it's no surprise that they are under more stress than the ones under momma.
Then they have to travel to wherever, often cold and under additional stress. I am not trying to play "who is best or smartest???" but I am saying that everyone's advice should be respected and appreciated...especially those who have had experience.. If you'd care to share why you think applesauce makes a difference, I'm interested in knowing.

"If you don't like or agree with the information, feel free to ignore it. Just saying..." X2.

I have no idea how you define snarky, but I was not. I certainly did not disrespect your opinions, I simply disagree with them. Disagreement is not disrespect.

I even stated
"I have raised chicks with broody hens as well as without and my opinions are just that, my opinions. I'm not trying to convince anyone that mine are better, just adding to the conversation."
in case you missed that part.

I also do not place much stock in books full of unresearched, unsourced opinions expressed as expert. Those you referenced were nothing more than hobbyist and if you have been raising poultry for nearly two decades, they probably are less experienced than you.

There are plenty of reasons for pasty butt in shipped chicks and it has nothing what so ever to do with being hatched at a hatchery. Any chick that is deprived of hydration for several days will be prone to pasty butt regardless of where they were hatched. To much heat does cause dehydration, again a likely cause of pasty butt. I believe that diet has more to do with pasty butt then stress. That is why I started offering applesauce to my incubated chicks on day one. I also remove them from the hatcher once they are dry and move them to the brooder so they get access to water sooner.

It is apparent that you and I disagree on some issues and neither of us is likely to convince the other to change (which was never my intent), but having both perspectives available is a good thing and it is not disrespectful or personal.

 

[chicknmania]

I still don't understand what applesauce has to do with anything but whatever. Peace y'all. I think this is way overkill.

 

[Kiki]

Chicks get pasty butt from being too hot or too cold too.

 

[Lemon-Drop]

I use a heat lamp

 

[spartacus_63]

I still don't understand what applesauce has to do with anything but whatever. Peace y'all. I think this is way overkill.

Reading is fundamental.

 

[chicknmania]

Reading is fundamental.

As this shows no source information, I will accept it as yet another opinion.

Sort of like your opinion about thr applesauce

 

[alwaystj9]

I appreciate all the information. Not to hijack someone else's post, I bought a Brin Sea heater to try this year. I have been using lamps forever for my feed store chicks and some are raised by hens. Never had a case of Pasty butt here ever. I wanted to try the brinsea for safety reasons and also because I read somewhere that chicks are quieter under a brinsea than using a lamp. The OP's comments about the light and the chicks clustering under it was something I had not considered.

 

[spartacus_63]

Sort of like your opinion about thr applesauce

That is exactly what I said, Finally we agree on something.