HELP!!!! DO I ASSIST THIS PIPPED EGG OR NOT YET?????

[Pyxis]

Looks like it might have missed the air cell, based on where the pip is. You might to candle it just to confirm. If that is the case, it might have another 24 hours left before it's ready and hatches.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

THANK YOU!!! And yes it IS very stressful and joyous both at the same time!! I have hardly slept since they started hatching Thursday afternoon lol I am overjoyed at the amount that have hatched at this point!
How was your hatch? How many?

My hatch is still going - LOL
Yesterday was day 21 if my calculations are right. The first one to pip was the one away from the air cell, it took it 24hrs to hatch.

I have a total of 3 that have hatched so far, looks like a couple of more are pipping These were shipped eggs, so I'm happy so far, I do hope more come, but I will have to be patient.

This was what mine looked like to begin with - note it pipped on the other end away from the air cell. It made some progress throughout the night - I could see the beak, it breathing and it would take spells peeping like mad. I had to be reeaaally patient - I did watch the membrane too see if it was drying out and had Bacitracin on hand to apply if needed to moisten the membrane.

 

[ScottKelly1974]

I've been through this this week. All my chicks from the incubator I've assisted. Helping is not recommended, but after two days having broken the shell, I helped crack the shell from the starter hole. The membrane had retraced from the shell and dried on the chick. I left the chick in the egg to allow it to come out on their own. But the membrane had dried stiff on the second chick, so I removed the shell cap, and carefully removed the dried membrane. This was hold the chick in, so helping was needed. But I did not take the chick out of the shell. There could still be some growth/developement needed. Keep a watch on the chick.

In previous eggs, I've had some never hatch, and opening the shell I found out they had developed fully but just could not break the shell. I think they died because they were able to break into the air cell and then ran out of oxygen. Therefore what I do is to candle each egg. I am looking for movement, and if I see the chick trying to break the shell, I will get a starter hole so the chick will not run out of air. Then I will let the chick finish the process. The last two chicks I had to start the hole. They took three days to come out. If I had not provided a hole for them to breath they would have died in the shell. Now they are walking around, eating and drinking with the other chicks.

If you do assist with the hatch, avoid using anything sharp. I use a tack to start a hole while canceling them, so I avoid hitting the chick. But after that, I have a paperclip I have shaped and the end is covered in non-toxic clear scrapbooker's glue. If you hit the membrane, it will bleed. At that point, stop, put back in the incubator, and wait for a few hours. Also, keep in mind the membrane has blood and nerve cells, so the chick is going to feel you injure the membrane. The processes going on in the shell takes a day or more.

Two weeks ago, I started a hole for one chick, then put her back in the incubator. After work that day, I found her running around in the incubator. She was a quick hatch, and all on her own after I made a starter hole.

What I've noticed, the membrane is slowly consumed by the chick's body through the umbilical. The umbilical is the last thing to dry up, then the navel will close. This is something you will have to watch. It is best to allow the chick to come out of the shell, even if you assist. I don't put the new chick in with the others until the navel is closed. I've noticed the other chicks will peck at the open navel. So allow the chick to dry up and stand/walk. Then it should be safe to put with the hatchmates.

 

[jen61871]

My hatch is still going - LOL
Yesterday was day 21 if my calculations are right. The first one to pip was the one away from the air cell, it took it 24hrs to hatch.

I have a total of 3 that have hatched so far, looks like a couple of more are pipping These were shipped eggs, so I'm happy so far, I do hope more come, but I will have to be patient.

This was what mine looked like to begin with - note it pipped on the other end away from the air cell. It made some progress throughout the night - I could see the beak, it breathing and it would take spells peeping like mad. I had to be reeaaally patient - I did watch the membrane too see if it was drying out and had Bacitracin on hand to apply if needed to moisten the membrane.
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Nice! Anymore hatch since? My eggs were all from my flock but I do want to get new blood in the flock I just read everywhere about getting eggs in the mail is not so great. How has your experience with it been?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Nice! Anymore hatch since? My eggs were all from my flock but I do want to get new blood in the flock I just read everywhere about getting eggs in the mail is not so great. How has your experience with it been?

I have a total of 7 that hatched out of 13. Originally I had 16-I dropped one when unpacking them 1 was a quitter around day 7 and the other around day 14.

My last one hatched this morning, so I candled the rest of the eggs and there was no life - I did open the air cell ends and unfortunately these had been dead for probably a day or so - I will have to do some reading (always!) But...likely some of it was because of shipping, the ones that didn't make it had saddle shaped air cells and there was another 2 chicks that were on the wrong end (same breed as the one that successfully hatched) so I wonder if there was a genetic/developmental issue there. Could also have been me and my inexperience too!

Did your wrong end pip chick make it?!??

 

[jen61871]

I've been through this this week. All my chicks from the incubator I've assisted. Helping is not recommended, but after two days having broken the shell, I helped crack the shell from the starter hole. The membrane had retraced from the shell and dried on the chick. I left the chick in the egg to allow it to come out on their own. But the membrane had dried stiff on the second chick, so I removed the shell cap, and carefully removed the dried membrane. This was hold the chick in, so helping was needed. But I did not take the chick out of the shell. There could still be some growth/developement needed. Keep a watch on the chick.

In previous eggs, I've had some never hatch, and opening the shell I found out they had developed fully but just could not break the shell. I think they died because they were able to break into the air cell and then ran out of oxygen. Therefore what I do is to candle each egg. I am looking for movement, and if I see the chick trying to break the shell, I will get a starter hole so the chick will not run out of air. Then I will let the chick finish the process. The last two chicks I had to start the hole. They took three days to come out. If I had not provided a hole for them to breath they would have died in the shell. Now they are walking around, eating and drinking with the other chicks.

If you do assist with the hatch, avoid using anything sharp. I use a tack to start a hole while canceling them, so I avoid hitting the chick. But after that, I have a paperclip I have shaped and the end is covered in non-toxic clear scrapbooker's glue. If you hit the membrane, it will bleed. At that point, stop, put back in the incubator, and wait for a few hours. Also, keep in mind the membrane has blood and nerve cells, so the chick is going to feel you injure the membrane. The processes going on in the shell takes a day or more.

Two weeks ago, I started a hole for one chick, then put her back in the incubator. After work that day, I found her running around in the incubator. She was a quick hatch, and all on her own after I made a starter hole.

What I've noticed, the membrane is slowly consumed by the chick's body through the umbilical. The umbilical is the last thing to dry up, then the navel will close. This is something you will have to watch. It is best to allow the chick to come out of the shell, even if you assist. I don't put the new chick in with the others until the navel is closed. I've noticed the other chicks will peck at the open navel. So allow the chick to dry up and stand/walk. Then it should be safe to put with the hatchmates.

Thank you for the great information! Now, how long after hatch date did you starting putting the pin holes in the eggs? My eggs were supposed to hatch or should I say day 21 would have been Sat eve but they started hatching on Thursday. (which makes me wonder if it's true that incubation does start when the hen lays the egg) 22 happy healthy chicks hatched on their own and a 23 is pipping now. that leaves 11 eggs not showing anything yet. this eve would be 2 days overdue. Suggestions?

 

[ScottKelly1974]

I did have a chick hatch from the wrong end. It did survive but I put it in with the others too soon. This is why you need to wait for the chicks to walk around before putting in with other chicks.

My first hatching eggs were shipped. 7 of 12 hatched, under the care of a hen. Two never developed, and three didn't break the shell. This is why I candle the eggs to see who is trying to hatch. It is then I will make a hole to allow them access to outside air.

 

[jen61871]

I have an update on this chick, He hatched on his own!!!!! i took everyones advice and sat tight and not too long after my post he zipped right out!. Here is a picture of him. chick #23. Another one is pipping now and there are 11 eggs in the incubator that show signs of nothing yet. Day 21 would have been sat eve, but they started hatching on Thursday. So 22 out of 34 eggs have hatched so far, and 1 currently pipping. that makes 11 eggs 2 days late this eve. At what point do I candle to see who is alive?

 

[ScottKelly1974]

Thank you for the great information! Now, how long after hatch date did you starting putting the pin holes in the eggs? My eggs were supposed to hatch or should I say day 21 would have been Sat eve but they started hatching on Thursday. (which makes me wonder if it's true that incubation does start when the hen lays the egg) 22 happy healthy chicks hatched on their own and a 23 is pipping now. that leaves 11 eggs not showing anything yet. this eve would be 2 days overdue. Suggestions?

I look for movement in the eggs to ensure they are alive. I put the pin hole in only when I see attempts to hatch. It has worked every time so far. The air sack should be enlongated. This means the chick has turned and has moved into the air sack space. This would be the back spine is in the air sack. If you have a failure, open it up to see how the chicks are positioned in the eggs. If you are past day 21, candle them and look for movement. If you see hatching attempts, I would put a small hole for fresh air. If the air sack is even, then the chick has not turned, maybe because of slower development due to low incubator temperatures. My incubator has temperature differences. Some spots have higher temperatures than other areas.

 

[casportpony]

I would candle now.