help dog attacked

[robctry69]

For Dog Bite Wounds:
First Clip and Clean the Area with a dilute Betadine Solution.  If there are puncture wounds they need to be flushed multiple times with a syringe of diluted Betadine Solution.  A dilute  Solution is warm water and a squirt of Betadine to look like tea water.  You want to clip the area to normal skin around the wound so that air can get to it and puss can drain from it.  And since it sounds infected make sure he flushes until all the pus is out.

You will need to flush/clean the area anywhere from daily to multiple times a day depending on extent of wound.  Keep dog from licking wounds by either a e-collar or t-shirt.  

Once wounds are clean you can infuse triple antibiotic ointment and make sure it is plain with no "caines" in it.  Pain meds in Triple Antibiotic not good for pets.  Infuse into punctures until ointment oozes out.  Yes I mean actually putting the tip into the wound and squeezing until it oozes out.  It can take quite a bit to fill some punctures.  This should be done also daily to twice a day until the hole closes.

If the dog got an all over beating give it a bath with the Betadine Scrub as this will get to all the little punctures you might not find with all the fur.

Both products can be bought at TSC.

If the dog is not eating/drinking or is running a temp of more than 104 (normal for a dog is 100-102) then it really should be seen by a vet as it will most likely need antibiotics.

Hope this helps.

Also since this can hurt it would be a good idea to muzzle the dog for safety reasons and that can be done by simply tying the leash around the muzzle to the top then again to the bottom of the muzzle and then around to the back of the head. 

thanks no worries on liking its way up on his neck from my understanding

 

[robctry69]

Just checked him there is no puss more like a water blood mix like in a normal cut i think it would be the white blood cells trying to do there job I had some blue kote and neo here I applied to it no fever and he's eating and drinking

 

[Stacykins]

Just checked him there is no puss more like a water blood mix like in a normal cut i think it would be the white blood cells trying to do there job I had some blue kote and neo here I applied to it no fever and he's eating and drinking

That sort of drainage is described as serosanguineous exudate. It is much better to see than purulent exudate (puss, basically). But still, they need to watch him like a hawk. I doubt they will take him to a vet if they haven't bothered to yet, but he isn't out of the woods until the wounds heal completely. The biggest worry is if the wounds become abscessed. Then he would need to be taken to a vet promptly for antibiotics and likely surgical cleaning of the wounds, the vet would also likely place a drainage tube.

 

[YardBirdMom]

It sounds like the dog, and owners, may have gotten lucky and I'm glad it sounds as if he can recover with the minimal care they can provide.

To this note I must state something that's bothering me and this is by no means a flame, but common sense that all animal owners should know and/or consider before becoming responsible for living creatures.

My rule of thumb has always been when I take on an animal (of any size, breed, and kind) that I take on all of it's care. Including, but not limited to food, water, shelter, vaccinations, worming, wound care, and the inevitable veterinarian expenses.

In my humble opinion, if a person does not have the means to take care of ALL of that animals needs, including any medical treatment it may require, then they honestly need to evaluate why they want to own an animal.

Owning an animal, or animals, is a privilege, not a right, and comes with a high level of responsibility. The animal is a living, breathing, feeling creature that is solely dependent upon us for everything and deserves the best care we can give them. If an owner cannot afford to give it those things they should contemplate finding it a home where another person can.

I hope the dog recovers and you are a great friend for helping him do so.

 

[Stacykins]

My rule of thumb has always been when I take on an animal (of any size, breed, and kind) that I take on all of it's care. Including, but not limited to food, water, shelter, vaccinations, worming, wound care, and the inevitable veterinarian expenses.

In my humble opinion, if a person does not have the means to take care of ALL of that animals needs, including any medical treatment it may require, then they honestly need to evaluate why they want to own an animal.

Owning an animal, or animals, is a privilege, not a right, and comes with a high level of responsibility. The animal is a living, breathing, feeling creature that is solely dependent upon us for everything and deserves the best care we can give them. If an owner cannot afford to give it those things they should contemplate finding it a home where another person can.

I agree with this completely. Animals sometimes need veterinary care, and it is often not cheap. But it is an essential expense if you want to keep an animal. An emergency can happen anytime.

In fact, I had to have a livestock vet visit in the middle of the night to save a goat doe with a stuck kid (bad stuck). Was it cheap? Absolutely not! But her health is my responsibility. And by no means do I make a lot of money. I basically live paycheck to paycheck. But part of that paycheck is set aside into a savings account just for veterinary care (routine or emergency) and some goes into my savings account. If a veterinary expense is larger than my needs, I dip into my savings rather than letting that animal suffer.

Alas, it seems many people now are viewing their animals as disposable and that they do not have a need for medical care. I would imagine if the owner of that dog had instead been the one bitten in the neck, they would have promptly gotten their behinds to an emergency room.

Though I am sure we can discuss the merits of irresponsible pet ownership until the day we die, it still won't change the folks who sit on their thumbs when their animal is hurting.

 

[Berner Mom]

I agree with this completely. Animals sometimes need veterinary care, and it is often not cheap. But it is an essential expense if you want to keep an animal. An emergency can happen anytime.

In fact, I had to have a livestock vet visit in the middle of the night to save a goat doe with a stuck kid (bad stuck). Was it cheap? Absolutely not! But her health is my responsibility. And by no means do I make a lot of money. I basically live paycheck to paycheck. But part of that paycheck is set aside into a savings account just for veterinary care (routine or emergency) and some goes into my savings account. If a veterinary expense is larger than my needs, I dip into my savings rather than letting that animal suffer.

Alas, it seems many people now are viewing their animals as disposable and that they do not have a need for medical care. I would imagine if the owner of that dog had instead been the one bitten in the neck, they would have promptly gotten their behinds to an emergency room.

Though I am sure we can discuss the merits of irresponsible pet ownership until the day we die, it still won't change the folks who sit on their thumbs when their animal is hurting.

x2

 

[YardBirdMom]

I agree with this completely. Animals sometimes need veterinary care, and it is often not cheap. But it is an essential expense if you want to keep an animal. An emergency can happen anytime.

In fact, I had to have a livestock vet visit in the middle of the night to save a goat doe with a stuck kid (bad stuck). Was it cheap? Absolutely not! But her health is my responsibility. And by no means do I make a lot of money. I basically live paycheck to paycheck. But part of that paycheck is set aside into a savings account just for veterinary care (routine or emergency) and some goes into my savings account. If a veterinary expense is larger than my needs, I dip into my savings rather than letting that animal suffer.

Alas, it seems many people now are viewing their animals as disposable and that they do not have a need for medical care. I would imagine if the owner of that dog had instead been the one bitten in the neck, they would have promptly gotten their behinds to an emergency room.

Though I am sure we can discuss the merits of irresponsible pet ownership until the day we die, it still won't change the folks who sit on their thumbs when their animal is hurting.

Perhaps I choose to take a kinder, gentler view of an owner, or wishful thinking, but here goes what I would like to believe. A person sees a pup and it's 'OH SO CUTE' and they want a dog SO bad and without giving proper thought to what owning said animal entails they load it up and bring it home.

All goes well and the dog is healthy and maybe they get it's shots, maybe they don't, either out of ignorance or thinking it's not necessary, but the dog continues to live and do fine.

Then one day something major happens (puppy develops symptoms of parvo/dog's attacked) and the owner suddenly is faced with the realism that, 'OH MAN I don't have the money for this'.
An ignorant (not meaning a dumb person, but an uneducated one on the topic of animal husbandry) owner now has to deal with an injured/sick animal and no funds to handle it proper.

I DO believe this scenario happens more times than not and others can educate people if they're willing to learn. Some people have animals and just want them, but do NOT care about them. These are the people who confuse me and anger me. Why have it if you don't care about it?!
But, for the most part I almost always try to see the good in people and believe their ignorant over cruel.

An example of educating people:
My daughter in law decided she wanted to get my almost 3yr old grand-baby a puppy. Since she's never owned a dog and I have owned many, I shared with her my experiences, do's and don'ts and the basic needs of this animal: vaccinations, rabies given by a vet, worming, obedience training, potty training, mandatory walks twice a day NO matter the weather. A bored dog is a destructive dog, period! After our conversation she said, "Wow, there's SO much more to it than I thought"! I said, "Yes, it is a living, breathing, ball of needs just like a human baby except it has fur"! She is taking the responsibility seriously, as is my son, and the pup is doing great!! I have no doubt in the event this pup needs medical attention he'll receive it, especially since his first trip out of the apartment was for a well check at the vet's

 

[robctry69]

Well I appreciate the help I will let them know not to get cancer ans suddenly not have any money left over for a vet as far as everyone that helped without trying to judge especially not knowing but that's ok the way people are now don't look down on someone when you don't know

 

[CrazyChickGirl]

Vet care is just so much more expensive now days... At least where we live. Sometimes I am spending more at the vet then on my own children.

 

[TLWR]

When I was in Kodiak, my greyhound needed a couple of stitches. Vet wanted close to $500 for that.
I had her entire foot stapled back together in NY for about $150.
Location has a lot to do with vet cost.

While I am an advocate of don't get them if you can't afford them, what is a person to consider "appropriate" for vet care?
I have large dogs (greyhounds, doberman, great dane), so I know sedation isn't going to be cheap. But when do you say you can't afford an animal? When you don't have $5000 sitting around to diagnose a medical issue? Been there, done that - I am pretty sure I basically paid to have my vet's bathroom remodel completed. Luckily, I was able to afford all the testing, ultrasounds, MRI, etc - to figure out there wasn't a vet in the country that was consulted that had any clue what was wrong with my dog. Good luck, hope for the best. I had him put to sleep 2.5 years later when whatever it was started to flare up again and he just wasn't up to going through it again.

But I don't think it is fair to say you shouldn't be able to own a dog if you don't have $5000 sitting around waiting for a series of vet bills.

My other greyhound - bumps and bruises along the way (we didn't have her sutured in Kodiak, we treated ourselves and she was no worse for the wear)... a snag by a tooth while playing that needed sutures ($100), degloved her foot that needed to be stapled back together again ($150), the visit for sutures that we opted to not do, a visit to have her head stitched together after the new dane tried to eat her ($150), her normal yearly visits, and the xrays to confirm her leg broke at 14 years old due to osteo before putting her to sleep. She was a cheap girl who lived 14+ years - ancient for a greyhound. Her brother on the other hand was close to a 10k dog in vet bills that almost made it to 11 with the 3 years being "sick"

The dobe - he was spendy before he was ours. He was a foster. He's a VWD dog and has a pancreas issue (doesn't digest food without added enzymes) and I was not adopting him intact due to his behaviors toward my male greyhound. I tried for 6 months to find him a home even in the lower 48. In the end, I had talked with several vets about how to get him neutered and had supplies donated and the clinic in Kodiak agreed to do it. I signed adoptions papers a few months after that was done when we still couldn't find him a home. Once we adopted him, we changed his enzyme to a much cheaper option (about $5/mo vs $80) and it works just fine. We were not allowed to try that while he was a foster. That expense was the reason nobody wanted to adopt him. Since then, he's been bitten by a snake which we didn't go to the vet for - Sunday night, called the vet and she said there was nothing she could do... if he was alive in 4 hours, it wasn't a rattle snake. If he made it past then, it was a cottonmouth and he'd be fine, sore, but fine. Regular vet visits for him.

Dane - She was attacked by pit on a Sunday afternoon. Evet visit to fix her up. That was around $500 or so, they kept her for the night as they weren't sure if she'd have use of the leg and wanted to be sure before giving her back to us.

We've had pretty decent luck - only 25% of my recent dogs have been $$$$ dogs. If they were all $10,000 + dogs, I'd not be able to keep having dogs.


So very long winded, but what is reasonable when deciding if you can "afford" a dog. Obviously things come up beyond normal yearly vet visits, but I've not figured out a way to tell if it will be spendy things or little much more affordable things...