HELP! I don't know what to do now

[rebrascora]

You are doing well. Some people have success pushing the prolapse back in with their finger and holding it in there, even for as long as 20 mins until they can feel the hen stop pushing. Others just keep it clean and moist and try to push it back in each time they clean it up.
It is possible that there are other shell less or even normal eggs in her system waiting to come out so I would just keep doing what you are doing and be guided by her behaviour. Is she eating and drinking happily and how is she doing as regards passing waste? It is possible that the tear will heal with the treatment you are using, so as long as she is not displaying signs of discomfort or distress, I would stick with it.

I'm not sure a sling would keep it in but still let poop out and may draw moisture from the tissue which would not be helpful or trap excrement against the tissue which may aggravate it further..

 

[Loppy Lobster]

Shes passing waste just fine... engage her some warms yesterday and did not touch them. She does not seem to be drinking on her own either. We've been force feeding her 10cc of water with vitamins every few hours. We understand the risk of feeding with a syringe but still better than the alternative I guess.

The rupture is a decent size so we are a little worried poop will find its way out of the oviduct creating infection. We might leave it out a few more days. My wife will most likely stich it today and we'll see how it goes.

Thx again for all the help... I'll post again with the results.

 

[rebrascora]

Just for your information, super glue works well if you feel the tear needs closing. You need to blot the tissue edges and then apply only to the edges and pinch together.
I used it to close up a crop after surgery. I was sceptical about it's application on moist tissue like that, particularly somewhere that needed to be sealed against fluids, but it did the job great.... just something else to consider instead of stitching maybe.

It is not clear from your post, but am I correct in thinking that she is not voluntarily eating or drinking? That would be a concern and suggests that something else is amiss and she may be in real pain. Usually once they pass a soft shelled/ shell less egg they perk up and even with a prolapse many act as though nothing is amiss, but of course every individual is different.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Looks like you are doing good and have been getting some great advise.

I hope she gets better soon!

 

[micstrachan]

I’ve been thinking about your girl. I have nothing to add at this point, but seriousky hope she pulls through.
Actually, I can add one littke thing. You can pick up baby bird formula at the pet store, mix it into a paste with water, and swipe littke chunks into her beak. She will instinctively swallow on her own without aspirating. Take it slow anddon’t force it too much, but at least you can get a few nutrients into her. This may give her strengthvand entice her to eventually eat on her own. You may be able to achieve the same thing by creating a mash with her feed and water. Please keep us posted. I think you’re doing a great job.

 

[Loppy Lobster]

This afternoon we followed the super glue advice vice trying to suture the rupture... with great results so far. We first cleaned the area with Betadine, dried her off and then super glued both sides of the rupture and closed the gap... gave it 1 min and added a bead of glue on top to make sure... waited 1 more min holding the two sides together and voila... short of fingers sticking automatically to her feathers and vent area ... we did put ointment on the rupture and super glue approx 5 min post surgery.... I then kept her wrapped in a towel and hung out for about 30 min to make sure she did not hit the rupture or rip the glue off. It's been about 6 hours now... We've had another bath and more ointment applied since .... the super glue seems to be going strong. The area was mostly dry when we applied the glue but even with some moisture coming out of the rupture... it still grabbed... it took a little longer... but it worked.

Starting tonight, We will be feeding her some plain yogurt for the next few days and then hopefully graduate to mash and feed. she has not eaten anything since this all started... only water and chicken vitamins.... but she is still looking good. She does tend to push really hard when pooping almost like she's trying to pass an egg... but we still can't feel an egg coming down... I hope we are over this hurdle... last thing she needs right now.

One thing we noticed is that her crop seems to be half full of rocks still... more than usual anyway. I've felt what an empty and full crop feel like in the past... but this is definitely rocks grinding when I palate it. She does not seem in distress but thought It was a little weird. Any input would be great.

Thx again

 

[micstrachan]

Ooooohhh, crooop laaaady!!!
@azygous

 

[micstrachan]

Forgot to mentio, I’m really glad to hear the superglue is working!

 

[rebrascora]

Hi

Firstly I'm delighted to hear the super glue is holding so far. As I said, I was sceptical about it's use on moist tissue and yes it is a little fiddly to get it only on the bits you want, but in my opinion a lot less traumatic than stitching and no worries about having to remove the stitches at a later date.

As regards her crop problem, that is concerning and may be linked to the prolapse. Often crop issues are caused by a blockage or restriction further down the digestive tract/intestines and sometimes it will in fact be a reproductive tract issue that causes it. Massage of the crop and fluids are the best initial treatment. Some find oil also helps to get things moving. @azygous recommends coconut oil because it is solid and you can swipe little bits into the mouth without fear of them aspirating. I would massage for about 10-15 mins 4x a day and continue with fluids. If she is not taking in food, she will be living off her body stores (muscle mass) to keep warm and maintain body function so you could help her by providing a heat source. Even inside a house, she will be using body stores to keep warm, so a direct source like a heat pad can be beneficial.

As regards the contents of her crop, what do you normally feed them including treats? Do they have access to grit as well as oyster shell? Do they free range?
Does her breath smell bad.... if those contents have been sitting there since you started treating her prolapse, there is concern that it may turn sour. Have you seen her regurgitating after you give her fluids? Does she have access to any feed or grit in her infirmary cage?

You are doing so well it seems really unfair that you have been thrown another curve ball!

 

[Suzi18]

My poor girl died in my arms a minute ago. I took a picture of the area around her vent and it won't attached (so much for the iPhone when you need it). It was dark red and looked stretched to the max and the skin looked as if it was splitting but there was no blood. It was extremely distended. She had brownish fluid that came out of her mouth as she died. It looked like dirty water.

I've never encountered this before. What happened to her? I'll attach a picture if I can get this fancy phone to do its job.

So sorry