Help identifying these bantams please!

[BawkenQuackers]

Bought from a lovely older couple who had several of these. They called them spangled but didn't mention a breed, they all looked the same with white earlobes and mottling but some had rose combs and these had single combs. I picked these out because they're exactly like the hen I already have. Not sure what kind they are, I'm thinking rose comb bantam but with single combs I'm unsure. Help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[redinator]

Bought from a lovely older couple who had several of these. They called them spangled but didn't mention a breed, they all looked the same with white earlobes and mottling but some had rose combs and these had single combs. I picked these out because they're exactly like the hen I already have. Not sure what kind they are, I'm thinking rose comb bantam but with single combs I'm unsure. Help would be greatly appreciated!

I did a google image search and this is what I came up with: https://purelypoultry.com/product/m...istory,,one of the breed's most iconic traits.

 

[BawkenQuackers]

I did a google image search and this is what I came up with: https://purelypoultry.com/product/mottled-japanese-bantam-chicks/#:~:text=These bantams have a fascinating cultural history,,one of the breed's most iconic traits.

They don't have white earlobes?

 

[MROO]

Bought from a lovely older couple who had several of these. They called them spangled but didn't mention a breed, they all looked the same with white earlobes and mottling but some had rose combs and these had single combs. I picked these out because they're exactly like the hen I already have. Not sure what kind they are, I'm thinking rose comb bantam but with single combs I'm unsure. Help would be greatly appreciated!

My guess is that they are either a project or a sport of the White-Faced Black Spanish Bantam. The pullet has the classic white face and while the cockerel's is red, he has the classic white earlobes. Both have the proper comb. They may also be cross between the WFB Spanish bantam and a single-combed splash or possibly a silver Sebright. Whatever they are, they are beautiful little birds!
https://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/white-faced-black-spanish-bantam.html
Edit to add more information.

 

[BawkenQuackers]

My guess is that they are either a project or a sport of the White-Faced Black Spanish Bantam. The pullet has the classic white face and while the cockerel's is red, he has the classic white earlobes. Both have the proper comb. They may also be cross between the WFB Spanish bantam and a single-combed splash or possibly a silver Sebright. Whatever they are, they are beautiful little birds!
https://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/white-faced-black-spanish-bantam.html
Edit to add more information.

Thanks! I appreciate it!

 

[MROO]

Thanks! I appreciate it!

Where are you located? I'd love to get some hatching eggs when you're ready!

 

[JedJackson]

I am not sure on these. The color is definitely mottled, but leg color is wrong for Ancona bantams, and I haven't seen a mottled variety for Dutch bantams. Either of these is possible. However, the male's rounded white earlobe is something I'd associate with Rosecomb bantams, but they don't actually have rose combs but instead single combs.

So, all of that considered, I think they are either some obscure bantam breed, probably from Europe, or mixed breeds, probably part of a project to create something new. I lean toward the last explanation, but there is no way to be sure.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Mottled Rose Comb Bantams with Single Combs. Probably were culls due to the fault.

 

[BawkenQuackers]

I am not sure on these. The color is definitely mottled, but leg color is wrong for Ancona bantams, and I haven't seen a mottled variety for Dutch bantams. Either of these is possible. However, the male's rounded white earlobe is something I'd associate with Rosecomb bantams, but they don't actually have rose combs but instead single combs.

So, all of that considered, I think they are either some obscure bantam breed, probably from Europe, or mixed breeds, probably part of a project to create something new. I lean toward the last explanation, but there is no way to be sure.

Is it a possibility they were mixed with something that introduced the single comb gene in these? Possibly something that also introduced the mottling? What could that potentially be? Spangled OEGB? Japanese? White faced BS? Most of the other ones the older couple had were rose combs and the one I already had from another lady said it was a mottled Japanese but looks almost identical to these new (thinking) totally unrelated ones. I can get a photo of her tomorrow for reference.

 

[BawkenQuackers]

Where are you located? I'd love to get some hatching eggs when you're ready!

I'm in Bluefield WV