Help me decide how to worm my flock?

[ackie]

Okay I have Safeguard for Goats 10% now. I know its 0.23mL/lb PO for 5 days with 14 day egg withdrawal for killing all worms.

I have also read you can do 0.0045mL/lb PO for 5 days to treat cecal and roundworms with no egg withdrawal.

Previously I wormed everybody with Wazine and my peachicks pooped out a lot of worms - I assume roundworms as that's all Wazine treats. I wormed them because two of my peachicks died of histomoniasis (sent one for necropsy), though I later discovered that would have come from cecal worms, so I know I need to at least treat the peachicks for cecal worms.

Honestly not opposed to the peachicks getting the heavier dose as they're not laying eggs.

But my chickens are finally laying and giving up eggs sounds meh. I will if I have to but I'm just trying to determine-

Can my flock have the other types of worms without exhibiting any symptoms? I have not done a fecal test. They have yellowish soft poop off and on but no one seems ill and there is also lots of normal poop. No open mouthed "gaping".

Help me pro/con treating at the lower dose vs the higher dose?

I suspect the answer is to just do them all but I wanted opinions.

Also should I follow the same dosing guidelines for the peafowl as chickens?

 

[Eggcessive]

@dawg53 and @casportpony are very good at advising what to do about treating worms.

 

[ackie]

@dawg53 and @casportpony are very good at advising what to do about treating worms.

thank you

 

[dawg53]

When I use Safeguard liquid goat wormer, I usually dose my birds for 5 days straight. That way I dont have to worry about the worms I cant see in feces.
We eat the eggs after using Safeguard, still here typing. I dont recommend eating the eggs if someone suspects they might have a reaction to the minute residue in the eggs.
I dont own peafowl, sorry I cant help you in that regard.

 

[ackie]

When I use Safeguard liquid goat wormer, I usually dose my birds for 5 days straight. That way I dont have to worry about the worms I cant see in feces.
We eat the eggs after using Safeguard, still here typing. I dont recommend eating the eggs if someone suspects they might have a reaction to the minute residue in the eggs.
I dont own peafowl, sorry I cant help you in that regard.

at what dose?

 

[dawg53]

at what dose?

I give my birds 1.50ml to each bird except my smaller EE's, I give them 1ml. When I administer it orally, I use a syringe without a needle and give it 1/2ml at a time. Anything greater than 1/2ml, they can aspirate.
However, Valbazen is my go to wormer of choice. Only 1/2ml is needed and only wormed a second time in 10-14 days.

 

[ackie]

does anyone else have an opinion? I havent done anything yet

 

[ackie]

option 1: give birds a tiny dose for 5 days, kill only roundworms and cecal worms, eat all the eggs (no withdrawal time)

option 2: give birds a regular dose once and again in 10 days, kill only roundworms and cecal worms, eat none of the eggs (14 day withdrawal time)

option 2.5: same thing but ignoring the withdrawal time and eating the eggs anyway (I'd probably at least toss the ones on dosing days plus a few extra days)

option 3: give birds a regular dose for 5 days, kill all the worms, eat none of the eggs (14 day withdrawal time)

option 3.5: same thing but ignoring the withdrawal time and eating the eggs anyway (I'd probably at least toss the ones during the 5 days plus a few extra days)

option 4: do nothing

option 5: party

I havent done a fecal float and no one is currently acting sick but my peachicks had roundworms a bit ago & also histomoniasis that likely comes from cecal worms. They were treated for roundworm but not cecal. They are in a separate pen but I walk in and out of it onto land the chickens access.

 

[dawg53]

Why are you holding back from worming your birds? I gave you the info you needed in my previous post.
Worm orally each bird 5 days straight with the safeguard dose to kill ALL worms, which should be your goal. OR use the Valbazen orally like I stated to kill ALL worms. Either way; large roundworms, cecal worms and capillary worms will be eliminated.

You will have to worm your birds monthly due to cecal worm eggs deposited on the soil where your peachicks walk in and out on the land where the chickens roam. That's the only way to eliminate the worms life cycle in your chickens and peachicks. I dont know the dosages for peachicks, I've never owned them. Get an average weight and figure out the dosages yourself.

 

[Krazikatlady64]

IMO it won't hurt them to worm them. You would want to kill ALL the worms if you are going through this. They and you will be better off for it. Then you also have a reference for the future. I would not eat the eggs, unless that is your main food source and you really need to for protein.