help me do the "Odds" math

Discussion in 'Managing Your Flock' started by oldfartfarmer, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. oldfartfarmer

    oldfartfarmer Chirping

    May 10, 2015
    Looking for opinions on folks that have been through this,

    I have 6 comets, 1 yr old come june,
    now, Im not above/below culling a few, or hanging a sign for free chickens
    I'm looking to have a flock of 12 in the end

    Im wanting to get 6 more chicks, or have a 12 chicken flock,


    Black Jersey Giant= 1

    Easter eggers
    for colored eggs,

    for the broodiness so i can breed, mutts are ok with me

    The local hardware store can order anything i want,

    how do i order so i end up with 11 girls
    and 1 roo
    given the odds in ordering, and the fact that I've never won the lottery,

    thank you
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2016

  2. sourland

    sourland Broody Magician Premium Member

    May 3, 2009
    New Jersey
    Order all pullets - not straight run, and you will still get several cockerels.
  3. oldfartfarmer

    oldfartfarmer Chirping

    May 10, 2015
    so to get 3 Brahma pullets i should order how many? 4,,5,,6,,?

    Jersey Giants ?

    Easteregger ?

    Cochin ?
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2016
  4. TillyPeeps

    TillyPeeps Chirping

    Oct 13, 2015
    Central PA
    If you order 6 pullets from a reputable breeder or hatchery, there is a chance you may have one cockerel. If not, there are always some gentle roos looking for home. No matter what type of cockerel you order as a day old chick, you never know if it will turn out to be mean. Aggressive silkie roo, anyone? So the safe solution is to take some one's good-behavior roo for free.

    How many cockerel will you get depends on where you get the chicks. If you buy chicks from TSC, more than half of your "pullets" could be cockerels.[​IMG]
  5. lazy gardener

    lazy gardener Crossing the Road

    Nov 7, 2012
    I've done special order of 3 pullets from a reputable hatchery. These pullets were auto sexing, so the minute I laid eyes on them, I knew they'd sent me 3 roos! One TSC in my state has been known to have a bin of SR auto sexing birds, and they were 100% male. If I were you, and wanted to end up with 11 pullets and 1 cockrel, I'd order 12 pullets and 1 cockrel. That way you're bound to have at least one cockrel. You might luck out hand have all 12 pullets live, or you may end up with a couple of extra cockrels. They're all tasty. So just eat your extras.
  6. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner Free Ranging

    Feb 2, 2009
    Southeast Louisiana
    John, when you order chicks from full sized breeds from a major hatchery you can order pullets, cockerels, or straight run. Straight run means they pick the chicks at random so it’s just plain luck how many pullets or cockerels you get. I once got 7 pullets, no cockerels, from a straight run order. To balance my luck out someone got seven cockerels somewhere. I bet they were mad. To be honest I wanted a few cockerels too. I’ve had some straight run orders that were mostly male too but never 7 out of 7.

    The major hatcheries have specialists that squeeze the poop out of a chick’s vent and look inside. They can pretty much tell which ae male and which are female by what they see but it’s not perfect. Most hatcheries guarantee a 90% success rate in sexing. From my experience they are probably a little better than that.

    You have another luck problem though. Not all hatchery Easter Eggers lay colored eggs. Some can lay pink or brown eggs. You don’t know what they will lay until you see the first egg.

    If I were you I’d order whichever male you decide you want. You might or might not get one with your pullet order. Then I’d order the pullets you say you want, three Brahmas, one Jersey Giant, and one Cochin. But I’d order about three EE’s and prepare to cull any that you don’t want. That should cover you in case you do get an accidental rooster.
  7. oldfartfarmer

    oldfartfarmer Chirping

    May 10, 2015

    Now for my next question,

    of the above breeds,

    what one would be best to get in a Rooster
    as in quietest,,LOL,,,nicest,,,,good temperament

  8. Pork Pie Ken

    Pork Pie Ken Flockless Premium Member

    Jan 30, 2015
    Africa - near the equator
    I'd say that each roo differs, regardless of breed. Some turn out to be angels, others feathered assassins. They are generally worse during their adolescence so don't be surprised to find a roo being an absolute tool when he is 5-8 months (ish) but they can calm down.

    There are threads on how to "manage" roos also, so maybe check those out prior to getting one as they will help you out.

    All the best
  9. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner Free Ranging

    Feb 2, 2009
    Southeast Louisiana
    I agree with CT, it’s a matter of luck. If you look through the threads on here no matter the breed you’ll find some of any breed that are the sweetest thing ever and some that are holy terrors.

    Don’t confuse an adolescent cockerel with a mature rooster, they are entirely different things. Many cockerels cannot control their hormones, most roosters can. When do they mature into a rooster? Anywhere from 6 months to a year. It varies. Most of those “holy terrors” I mentioned above were actually cockerels but so were some of the “sweetest things ever”.
  10. oldfartfarmer

    oldfartfarmer Chirping

    May 10, 2015
    gawd, i remember those days with my kids, 2 girls and 1 boy, my odds then weren't good iether
    one holy terror
    one that drove my hair to a snow white
    one that was a sweet calm explorer

    and here i thought raising chickens was going to be FUN
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2016

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