Help me Identify the gender of this pigeon :/

[Hokum Coco]

Once pigeons breed they will want a new nest.. they make two,, one for the first set of eggs, then after chick is 16 days old they make another nest, female will lay again, and sit that nest, the male will finish the feeding of the young in the first nest...

Now if they wont breed and make a nest in there new nest its because they don't think its right... and yes you can leave some straw, or if you have long needled pine trees, they love pine needles for nest making, the long kind of needles not the short one.. we call the leaves of a pine .. needles due to the long pointed ones..like a sewing needle..

Just toss in a handful.. or use straw.. again it takes time for them to WANT to breed with each other.. sometimes a month,, but that is kinda long.. usually a few weeks.. Good Post.

they will build a new nest and wont use the nest that they already used? Yes they will start a new nest about 2+- weeks after the first squabs hatch/
Nests are usually made of twigs right? what else? Pine shavings; dried grass; hay, straw; feathers;
Is it okay to leave some twigs in there cage and let them build? Yes if left to free fly they will collect nest material as well.
Sorry for so many Questions

This is what I use for nest bowls. They are available at the Dollar store. I have 2 for each breeding pair. Some pairs will nest on the floor or will not use nest bowls. I have found it is best to let the birds rear their young the best way they see fit. Do not try to change what they decide to do. Do not decide to clean or move the nest in any way shape or form while incubating the eggs or tending the squabs. It can sometimes end bad for you is my experience..



This is an old brake drum off my truck I covered the bottom with pine shavings they brought more nesting material in. See the tail feather from a pheasant? (click on image to enlarge).

 

[KiddoPH]

about sexing a squabs, how?

 

[Hokum Coco]

about sexing a squabs, how?

http://www.pigeonmania.com/sexing-pigeon-babies-squab-male-or-female/

I am skeptical of this method. Who knows?

I still think you should ask another pigeon.

 

[willygog]

you can do a dna test , i dont know of any way other than perhaps a sex linked gene to identify the gender of a squab. but that only works with certain types. like Dun.. if yu want to learn sex linkage, find a good book on genetics.

 

[willygog]

http://www.pigeonmania.com/sexing-pigeon-babies-squab-male-or-female/

I am skeptical of this method. Who knows?

I still think you should ask another pigeon.

LOL i dont know man seems kinda offbeat to me.. but as you said who knows?

 

[Hokum Coco]

you can do a dna test , i dont know of any way other than perhaps a sex linked gene to identify the gender of a squab. but that only works with certain types. like Dun.. if yu want to learn sex linkage, find a good book on genetics. Nice looking bird in your avatar.

Bottom line how much would it cost?
Do you think it would be money well spent?
Would you bother to go to that length?

I personally go with my gut and I am usually 90% right.
You sometimes get a extra large female
(especially where I have white homers) that you think is a male.
You develop an instinct once you been a fancier awhile.
Keeping in mind all the time that if it lays an egg it is definitely female.
Speaking from experience I paired a set of pigeons that ended up having 4 eggs in their nest that I thought was definitely ♂ & ♀.

 

[willygog]

Bottom line how much would it cost? 100.
Do you think it would be money well spent? nope but it is an option
Would you bother to go to that length? No "I" would not others might ?

I personally go with my gut and I am usually 90% right.
You sometimes get a extra large female
(especially where I have white homers) that you think is a male.
You develop an instinct once you been a fancier awhile.
Keeping in mind all the time that if it lays an egg it is definitely female.
Speaking from experience I paired a set of pigeons that ended up having 4 eggs in their nest that I thought was definitel

I would not do so, after keeping birds for a long time, as you stated you do get to "just kinda know" no one is ever 100% right but you'll be right often enough not to worry about it..

Wait until you get a pair that joined up naturally in the loft, and come to find out there both males, i have one now that even tho the one is mated with a female the other male hangs out just a few inches from the pair,, he will sit with the male when its on eggs, and i believe if the female would let him he would sit those eggs as well..I'll get a photo of that for humor.. LOL sometimes the birds dont even know

 

[KiddoPH]

if both female it'll lay 4 eggs, how bout both male? what will happen? when can I identify if they're both male?

 

[Hokum Coco]

if both female it'll lay 4 eggs, how bout both male? what will happen? when can I identify if they're both male?

There will eventually come a point when you will say" It has been 7 years now. How come I have NO EGGS? I wonder it my pigeons are GAY??" You should have eggs roughly 10 days after you see your birds mate or tread as us fanciers like to call it. If you do not have eggs after that window I would expect you have a gay pairing. (Lesbians are all I am really familiar with personally.) I will go out on a limb and say you should have eggs by the time 3 months roll around sometimes nature takes awhile especially if your birds are maybe adolescent and have not raised young before. I am 90% sure you have a pair of pigeons. Sometimes the first batch of eggs do not hatch due to inexperience of the new couple just to give you a heads up. Pigeon eggs should hatch roughly 19 days+- after being laid.

 

[willygog]

I thought i would post this picture.. it is of two brothers nest mates,, one has paired with a nice almond female.. but the one seems to have paired with its brother..even tho the're brothers, they are pretty much glued to the hip.. and the funny thing is he can enter the nest box, and the female just looks at it.. darnedest thing i ever seen,, it acts normal but i can't help feeling its a little off... oh ya and there were other hens available,, till he lost out cause he wouldn't leave his brothers side and the hen... kinda sad really,, i think im gonna have to cull this bird, i did try to seperate them but he wouldn't eat ... i have had birds for close to 20yrs with breaks in between, but this is the first time i ever saw one go this far//