Help me indentify whats wrong in my chicken mouth: and object, specific disease, solidfied purulence...? and what should I do?

GabrielH

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Nov 18, 2021
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Hello, sorry for the bad English. One of my oldest chickens that have around 4 years of age has got an infection in her throat/mount 2 weeks ago. I treated her with antibiotics and it seems like the infection got away, but she is not recovering. She is getting weaker as time passes, she doesn't eat nor drink and I can see she feel pain. It seems like there's something stuck there, so please watch the video in the link below and help me decide what should I do.


I've already tried to remove the yellow thing in the video with a tweezer to no avail. The little pieces I've managed to pull came out as small yellow fragments, and she felt huge discomfort, I am scared of hurting her. Maybe it's something bigger like a piece of wood or a bone, and if it is, it is normal for it to get yellow like that? Or it is solidified purulence from the infection? Any tips? what should I do? Should I stop trying to remove it with a tweezer because I can end up hurting her?
 
Hello, sorry for the bad English. One of my oldest chickens that have around 4 years of age has got an infection in her throat/mount 2 weeks ago. I treated her with antibiotics and it seems like the infection got away, but she is not recovering. She is getting weaker as time passes, she doesn't eat nor drink and I can see she feel pain. It seems like there's something stuck there, so please watch the video in the link below and help me decide what should I do.


I've already tried to remove the yellow thing in the video with a tweezer to no avail. The little pieces I've managed to pull came out as small yellow fragments, and she felt huge discomfort, I am scared of hurting her. Maybe it's something bigger like a piece of wood or a bone, and if it is, it is normal for it to get yellow like that? Or it is solidified purulence from the infection? Any tips? what should I do? Should I stop trying to remove it with a tweezer because I can end up hurting her?
This is canker. I believe it's treated with metronidazole among other antibiotics.

http://www.poultrydvm.com/condition/canker
 
Thank you! there are indeed pigeons around my house lately, and the yellow formation is just like cheese, too! I will start the treatment of all my chickens tomorrow.
Try to feed probiotics in the water along with antibiotics. Antibiotics are very helpful, but also kill the good bacteria in the gut which weakens the immune system. That makes it harder for her to fight the infection naturally. Feed probiotics will replace the loss of god bacteria and boost the immune system.
I'll tag some additional members an see if they have any other suggestions. @Wyorp Rock @Eggcessive @azygous
It does indeed look like canker.
 
You said she's not eating correct? Your' going to need to get food and water in her ASAP. The easiest way to do this is by tube feeding if she refuses to eat on her own, but I have no expense with that so will suggest easier options first.
Have you tried wettgin her food into a soupy mash and offering it to her that way? That is usually more appetizing to them and makes it much easier to eat. To get her to drink, start my trying to dip her back in the water and see if she will drink any. Quick dips in and out so she can tilt her head back up to swallow.
If she still refuses to eat or drink, start by using a syringe to syringe water into her mouth. @azygous has a detailed post showing how, but to summarize it, you want to fill the syringe and place it on the left side of her mouth towards the back of her throat. The canker may get in the way of this, so if you can't get the syringe on the left side, don't try to give her fluids this way. I you accidentally squirt fluids down the left side, you could force liquid into her lungs causing her to aspirate.
How long has it been since she ate or drank last? Placing soupy feed inside her beak may get to her swallow as well.
 
You said she's not eating correct? Your' going to need to get food and water in her ASAP. The easiest way to do this is by tube feeding if she refuses to eat on her own, but I have no expense with that so will suggest easier options first.
Have you tried wettgin her food into a soupy mash and offering it to her that way? That is usually more appetizing to them and makes it much easier to eat. To get her to drink, start my trying to dip her back in the water and see if she will drink any. Quick dips in and out so she can tilt her head back up to swallow.
If she still refuses to eat or drink, start by using a syringe to syringe water into her mouth. @azygous has a detailed post showing how, but to summarize it, you want to fill the syringe and place it on the left side of her mouth towards the back of her throat. The canker may get in the way of this, so if you can't get the syringe on the left side, don't try to give her fluids this way. I you accidentally squirt fluids down the left side, you could force liquid into her lungs causing her to aspirate.
How long has it been since she ate or drank last? Placing soupy feed inside her beak may get to her swallow as well.
I am feeding her manually a daily mixture of cornmeal, oats, and water. I put a small amount in her mouth with my finger and she eats. I have been doing this 12/12h. She doesn't eat by herself in 4 days. I also add Vitagold (vitamins and minerals supplements) in the mixture sometimes.
 
I am feeding her manually a daily mixture of cornmeal, oats, and water. I put a small amount in her mouth with my finger and she eats. I have been doing this 12/12h. She doesn't eat by herself in 4 days. I also add Vitagold (vitamins and minerals supplements) in the mixture sometimes.
Glad your getting her to eat, but do you have normal chicken feed? If so, what feed is it? Just feeding her cornmeal and oats isn't going to help her. Its not nutritious enough to be beneficial. The best thing you can do is wet down a balanced commercial chicken feed and feed that to her.
give her water separately as well. Sounds like your on the right track though, nice work!
 
I am feeding her manually a daily mixture of cornmeal, oats, and water. I put a small amount in her mouth with my finger and she eats. I have been doing this 12/12h. She doesn't eat by herself in 4 days. I also add Vitagold (vitamins and minerals supplements) in the mixture sometimes.
Make a mash with her ordinary feed and add some mashed up fish, haddock works well.
No cornmeal and no oats.
 
It does look like canker, a protozoan disease carried by pigeons. Usually there is a bad odor. Do you notice any? Other similar diseases without the bad odor are the wet form of fowl pox, or a yeast/fungal infection. Canker can be carried to your other chickens, so separate her. Disinfect all waterers and feeders with a 10% bleach solution and rinse well. Some use acidified copper sulfate in the water for 3 days a month at a dosage of 1/4 tsp per gallon of water as a preventative. Metronidazole is one of several drugs that may treat canker.
 

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