Help sex my ambiguous Cream Legbar day-old

[ChicKat]

In the top two pictures and on the right in the bottom pict. definitely a girl. The other CL chick has the darkest dorsal stripes that I have seen to date. Did you get chicks or eggs? Is there some chance that the dark CL is a cross?

They are nice healthy-looking chicks. Congrats. I would keep my eye on the dark one just-in-case.

 

[Lillaida]

Are these to little ones girls? And how is the marking, good or bad? Trying to learn .

 

[caychris]

Are these to little ones girls? And how is the marking, good or bad? Trying to learn

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Look like girls but would prefer more definite dorsal striping but sure look to be girls.

 

[Lillaida]

Yay! Thank you! So, the stripe in the middle should preferably be darker from the top of their head all the way down their back?
Hopefully I get a few more that hatch and hope that they have a better pattern. But at least the first two were girls, woohoo!

Is the only way to get a more definite pattern to breed boys and girls with the most distinct patterns, or is the trait for the auto sexing pattern linked more to the hen or rooster?

 

[caychris]

Yay! Thank you! So, the stripe in the middle should preferably be darker from the top of their head all the way down their back?
Hopefully I get a few more that hatch and hope that they have a better pattern. But at least the first two were girls, woohoo!

Is the only way to get a more definite pattern to breed boys and girls with the most distinct patterns, or is the trait for the auto sexing pattern linked more to the hen or rooster?

There has been some discussion about the color variations in the chicks recently over on the Cream Legbar thread. So I think the autosexing trait is fairly complex and can be diluted over time. Since it is really the females that are more clearly marked I think the issue is breeding only females that show strong autosexing features at hatch and avoid breeding males that developed from suspected female markings. If they are truly ambigous (Males with only lightly muted Female markings or females with definitive white headspots) This is one reason to take pics and keep records of the chicks hatching statistics because when it comes to autosexing it has been said that some CLB are losing the autosexing feature. I think this may be because of poor breeding choices where the hatch chicks were not nearly as clear we would like.

 

[Lillaida]

Thank you for your thoughts! I'm just starting this breed and learning about them, I definitely want to make sure I breed animals that will keep the auto sexing ability. That's one of the perks with this breed and it would be a shame to loose it! I also want the adult birds and the eggs to have the correct color. Lots of things to take in consideration!
Thank you for the tip about the other thread, I will have to go check it out .

 

[Elaine Elder]

Head spot should be white
males are gray
females are yellow to tan

I'm cheating slightly because the girls lay quietly on their backs

The female cream legbar should be chipmunk
as in a brown stripe with black stripes down each side.
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Crele Legbar
Cream Legbar was too monochromatic for me.
I started breeding for bright colors.
you can't pick chicks for color and form and plumage pattern. You have to wait for adult plumage after fall molt. My silkies go through 3 molts before i decide which will get to reproduce. My crele Legbars go through 2. Then the true size is more apparent. And female egg production and egg size is evident. I want big true blue eggs and i want eggs year round. 150 small eggs per year is not a good laying hen. What use are skinny roosters when half will be roosters. Not all are going to make it into breeding pens. There has to be enough meat to make a good meal. So I'm on 3rd generation of 8 planned generations for a standard that will breed true.
I'm also working on U.K. orpingtons that are autosexing. So far ive got a lot of black orpingtons that lay green eggs. But at least they are huge green eggs. And not the puny 2 eggs a week from U.K. orps.

Large Crele Orp. Culled because of peaComb. But the boys are Pretty. 7 more generations to go ...

 

[quackers57]

Is it a boy or a girl (3 day old crested cream legbar)

 

[caychris]

Is it a boy or a girl (3 day old crested cream legbar)

Would say boy

 

[quackers57]

Would say boy 

thought so just wasn't sure because of the stripes and brown on head.