Help with confusing chicken colors (should be sexlinked)

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I recently hatched out 4 F2 satin giant chicks and they're currently 4 days old (pics are from 2 days ago). There should have only been 2 possible color outcomes, white pullets and cuckoo cockrels. But the chick in the first picture is black.

The parents were F1 satin giants, both coming from cuckoo silkie roosters over white jersey giants. The parents of the chicks pictured were a white rooster and a cuckoo hen.

How is it possible I got a 99% fully melanistic chick (it has a white toe on each foot and its does have feathers coming in but I see no barring what so ever, while the other dark chick is obviosly barring out) from this pairing when it should've been a sexlinked outcome?

Theres no way any other egg was hatched by mistake since I had them completely separate from any other chickens, and I have no fully melanistic birds. Is this some sort of oddity and will not fall in the sex linked category? could it be recessive genes popping up? I didnt think this was at all possible and any insight is appreciated.
 

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If the roosters were barred they aren't sex linked. Sex linked chicks from a non-barred/barred mating requires the hen to be barred. If the male is barred he can pass on the barring gene to either male or female offspring.

I don't know if jersey giants are dominant or recessive white. But either way neither is useful for making sex linked chicks. Both hide other patterns and black-based colors so there could be just about any genes hidden by the white.
 
If the roosters were barred they aren't sex linked. Sex linked chicks from a non-barred/barred mating requires the hen to be barred. If the male is barred he can pass on the barring gene to either male or female offspring.

I don't know if jersey giants are dominant or recessive white. But either way neither is useful for making sex linked chicks. Both hide other patterns and black-based colors so there could be just about any genes hidden by the white.
Sorry I think my explanation was lacking, the pairing was a white male to a barred female. I thought explaining what the genetics of each parent was might also be helpful for figuring out why this pairing threw a melanistic chick.
 
I recently hatched out 4 F2 satin giant chicks and they're currently 4 days old (pics are from 2 days ago). There should have only been 2 possible color outcomes, white pullets and cuckoo cockrels. But the chick in the first picture is black.

The parents were F1 satin giants, both coming from cuckoo silkie roosters over white jersey giants. The parents of the chicks pictured were a white rooster and a cuckoo hen.

How is it possible I got a 99% fully melanistic chick (it has a white toe on each foot and its does have feathers coming in but I see no barring what so ever, while the other dark chick is obviosly barring out) from this pairing when it should've been a sexlinked outcome?

Theres no way any other egg was hatched by mistake since I had them completely separate from any other chickens, and I have no fully melanistic birds. Is this some sort of oddity and will not fall in the sex linked category? could it be recessive genes popping up? I didnt think this was at all possible and any insight is appreciated.
Are the F2's supposed to breed true?
 
Sorry I think my explanation was lacking, the pairing was a white male to a barred female. I thought explaining what the genetics of each parent was might also be helpful for figuring out why this pairing threw a melanistic chick.
Your white rooster is not a blank slate, white is amazing at hiding other colors. I thought this was an excellent explanation:
I don't know if jersey giants are dominant or recessive white. But either way neither is useful for making sex linked chicks. Both hide other patterns and black-based colors so there could be just about any genes hidden by the white.
 
Your white rooster is not a blank slate, white is amazing at hiding other colors. I thought this was an excellent explanation:
Ooh, I had no idea it worked that way, genetics are so interesting. I completely misread the other explanation, my apologies. Would that mean that the only rooster is the barred one since thats what the hen passed down?
 
Nope. White hides barring. You have two light chicks that might have a hidden barring gene from mom. AND, your white rooster may have a hidden barring gene, too, which would mean the chick with a barring mark could actually be female. These simply aren't sexlinks.
 
Nope. White hides barring. You have two light chicks that might have a hidden barring gene from mom. AND, your white rooster may have a hidden barring gene, too, which would mean the chick with a barring mark could actually be female. These simply aren't sexlinks.
After some research the white jersey giants were recessive white, would the white hiding barring still hold true? You would think the white wouldnt show at all if it was recessive and the chick was carrying a barring gene.

Sorry for all the questions, I appreciate the help

Edit: if the original cuckoo rooster carried recessive white and a barring gene, are barring genes black based and could be possible that the melanistic chick is because of that? I still cant make sense of how I ended up with a melanistic chick.

But say the original silkie and jersey giant is double barred cuckoo rooster to recessive white jersey giant hen, why did I end up with a completely white rooster? He had no ghost barring like Ive seen people get when the white covers barring and the female that hatched out was normal barred. Here's a picture of the two parents of these chicks and a picture of the original pairing that made them.
 

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After some research the white jersey giants were recessive white, would the white hiding barring still hold true? You would think the white wouldnt show at all if it was recessive and the chick was carrying a barring gene.
So the white rooster is the offspring of the cuckoo silkie and the white jersey giant, right? In that case, he should have inherited one gene for barring (assuming the silkie has two copies of the barring gene). So under the white, this rooster is barred. Assuming the white in the jersey giant hen is not hiding barring, the white rooster will have one gene for barring. He will have a 50% chance of passing barring on to his offspring, regardless of whether the chicks are male or female.

If jersey giants are recessive white, then the silkie rooster must also be carrying a copy of the gene for recessive white. The white rooster must be carrying two copies of recessive white, since he himself is white. Therefore he will pass a single copy of the recessive white gene on to every one of his chicks, both male and female.

If the female is also a result of the cuckoo silkie rooster and white jersey giant then she has a single copy of barring (females can only ever have a single copy) and a single copy of recessive white. She will pass the barring on only to her male offspring. But she has a 50% chance of passing recessive white on to any of her offspring both male and female.

From this pairing, each chick has a 50% chance of inheriting 2 copies of recessive white (and therefore being white). Each female chick has a 50% chance of inheriting a copy of barring from the white rooster and being barred (assuming they don't inherit 2 copies of recessive white).

Female chicks also have a 50% chance of inheriting no barring gene, which would make them black (possibly with leakage once they start feathering in depending on what else the white is hiding).

Male chicks will inherit one copy of barring from the hen. They have a 50% chance of also inheriting a second barring gene from the rooster. So all of the male chicks from this cross will have at least one barring gene. However, since both parents can pass on the recessive white, they won't necessarily all be barred. Some of the male chicks from this pairing may be white.
-For future breeding from these chicks keep in mind that some of the males may only have one copy of barring and can pass non-barring (solid black) on to their offspring. Some of the males may have two copies of barring and these will pass barring on to every one of their offspring. For the barred chicks, the darker males will be the ones with only one copy and the lighter colored males will have two copies. Any white males from this copy will carry at least one copy, but since white hides barring you won't be able to tell which ones have only one copy and which ones have two copies.
Edit: if the original cuckoo rooster carried recessive white and a barring gene, are barring genes black based and could be possible that the melanistic chick is because of that? I still cant make sense of how I ended up with a melanistic chick.
Barring causes white bars on the feathers. It can be present on any color. Traditional barred/cuckoo, however, is on a black base. Black gives the sharpest contrast (barring on some colors, such as blue or brown can be subtle enough as to not be noticeable, especially if the bird only has one copy of the gene for barring).

I don't know enough about melanism inheritance to comment on it(i think its dominant, but i don't work with melanistic breeds so i haven't really looked into it), but I think it's possible the chick is not melanistic, just black. Black birds often have black legs and beaks and it's not uncommon for their combs to be black when they are very small but they turn pink/red as the chick matures.
 

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