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[ShellyLynnW]

And shelley, sorry if you also feel attacked. Im sure casports post was not meant for you.

But I do have to agree with casport on this one. Many many dogs are poorly bred and have poor health, etc. Or are kept intact for no reason and then get bred and the owners don't even care.

I think breeding a dog to keep for yourself or for working purposes is very very different and I don't think anyone was saying to never breed or even suggesting to rescue (though I know exactly the kinds of people you are talking about).

But there are tons of people who have intact dogs and let them have litter after litter because they don't want to fix them. Or they use them to make money.

OR.

Maybe they purposely breed but the dog had horrible health or a horrible temperament.

All of those things are very wrong in my opinion.

Breeding LGD is different.

But I do agree to do it responsibly.

But I think it's great you want to provide dogs to people who need them.

The only thing I would say though is to please properly vet them. Sometimes people get free or cheap dogs to abuse them.

x2. If you plan on breeding, you must ask yourself why. Is the dog a quality stock, is there interest, is the dog friendly and good tempered, or are you just breeding just because. And always make sure the new owner will be suitable. Ask them questions too.

I appreciate those who are "clarifying" and I quite appreciate it. But, I will say, that Maremma's are a different situation. They will not be bred for money, but for people in need, who will, TRUST ME, be either through people I know recommendation, or EXTREMELY vetted. I'm an animal lover by far and beyond, but I'm also 36 years old, and have no fantasy's of this being easy, cheap, or being irresponsible about it. And the two poor girls I lost were a purebred Chihuahua, not another one sweet as her in the world, and a very sweet small golden doodle, who "accidentally"mated with a toy Yorkie, the outcome was a tiny fluffy precious loyal girl (she actually lost her life protecting my children when they were quite young) named Sadie. And the plan for her, and Lucy before her, was to keep one female from one litter, and find good homes for the rest. Lucy, on the other hand, was a choice I felt I had to make not to as she was so small, I couldn't find a suitable mate for her and wouldn't chance it. I have rescued outside cats, they're wonderful, but two are too young to fix and I'm hoping I catch it b/c there are many people with unfixed tomcats around, I understand the frustration. I also hope to get the benefit of the doubt, I'm new to Livestock etc, but not animals! And what's right for someone, isn't for everyone else. But, if you're going to have "unfixed" dogs/cats, it's a responsibility not to be taken lightly though mistakes will happen, and sometimes that's ok, that's how I ended up with my sweet Sadie, and my current Maltese Lucky whom I happily rescued!
Now, with all that said, how are the sweet little puppy's doing!? Momma?! They look great from what I can tell in the photos!

 

[Welshies]

Now, with all that said, how are the sweet little puppy's doing!? Momma?! They look great from what I can tell in the photos!

They are doing great. Momma is tired but has drank some water, as well as briefly ducked outside twice now. She is exhausted, though.
All ten puppies are fairly equal sizes and weights. We'll have to watch for any that fall behind, but I think all will do fine without any interference. They are all dry, noisy, and nursing well (albeit quite squished).

 

[ShellyLynnW]

They are doing great. Momma is tired but has drank some water, as well as briefly ducked outside twice now. She is exhausted, though.
All ten puppies are fairly equal sizes and weights. We'll have to watch for any that fall behind, but I think all will do fine without any interference. They are all dry, noisy, and nursing well (albeit quite squished).

Oh!!! That is just WONDERFUL to hear! Congratulations and the very best of luck!!

 

[Welshies]

Oh!!! That is just WONDERFUL to hear! Congratulations and the very best of luck!!

Now the mom is eating! Which is great news.
Thank you so much

 

[ShrekDawg]

I am thinking of breeding a large breed dog. SO and I have talked about it. We want the same things... small, cabin like house in the rockies. To make small profit off of our birds. Probably german shepherds, huskies (tricky because they can't free roam or so I've heard), akitas (had them in the past- but they require a lot of training), either one of those or some other cold-hardy but in good demand breed. At the time we'll see what's in demand and what is the most suitable. But it would definitely be a lot of fun.

Oh that would be awesome! I love huskies and shepherds.

I appreciate those who are "clarifying" and I quite appreciate it. But, I will say, that Maremma's are a different situation. They will not be bred for money, but for people in need, who will, TRUST ME, be either through people I know recommendation, or EXTREMELY vetted. I'm an animal lover by far and beyond, but I'm also 36 years old, and have no fantasy's of this being easy, cheap, or being irresponsible about it. And the two poor girls I lost were a purebred Chihuahua, not another one sweet as her in the world, and a very sweet small golden doodle, who "accidentally"mated with a toy Yorkie, the outcome was a tiny fluffy precious loyal girl (she actually lost her life protecting my children when they were quite young) named Sadie. And the plan for her, and Lucy before her, was to keep one female from one litter, and find good homes for the rest. Lucy, on the other hand, was a choice I felt I had to make not to as she was so small, I couldn't find a suitable mate for her and wouldn't chance it. I have rescued outside cats, they're wonderful, but two are too young to fix and I'm hoping I catch it b/c there are many people with unfixed tomcats around, I understand the frustration. I also hope to get the benefit of the doubt, I'm new to Livestock etc, but not animals! And what's right for someone, isn't for everyone else. But, if you're going to have "unfixed" dogs/cats, it's a responsibility not to be taken lightly though mistakes will happen, and sometimes that's ok, that's how I ended up with my sweet Sadie, and my current Maltese Lucky whom I happily rescued!
Now, with all that said, how are the sweet little puppy's doing!? Momma?! They look great from what I can tell in the photos!

Sorry to hear about your dogs
But glad you are going to be responsible breeding these ones. I figured you would be, especially being LGDs, dont think anyone breeds those for profit, but just wanted to double check

 

[sunflour]

Here is my favorite. His or her white toes are so unique compared to his siblings. So far, all of the puppies are alive, noisy, and warm.

So cute...well is it a he or she?

 

[Welshies]

So cute...well is it a he or she?

I haven't looked too closely yet. I want mom to have her time with her puppies.

 

[Kusanar]

So cute...well is it a he or she?

Lol, I was going to ask the same, I know with kittens it's pretty hard to tell on day olds, so I wait a week or 2 to check, but puppies, well, it's pretty obvious from day 1 what they are...

 

[ShellyLynnW]

Lol, I was going to ask the same, I know with kittens it's pretty hard to tell on day olds, so I wait a week or 2 to check, but puppies, well, it's pretty obvious from day 1 what they are...

Lol! I absolutely love dogs, and chickens, and cats and horses and....I think you get the picture, lol
I read this whole thread starting early, but with not much to add, you were getting great advice, but I've been on pins and needles all the way through! What a happy ending! I'm sorry you didn't get the pure breed that you wanted, but they will be wonderful puppy's! Thank you for keeping us up to date!

 

[chickencheeper]

Awwww, dang it! I haven’t been getting any notifications from this thread!