I thought of you today Jim as DP hand-lined the perch out of the pond, she did a darned fine job of it too. The pond now has a bunch of plants in it and we've put some tiny gold fish in it to eat whatever they can find.
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Not sure if I mentioned it here but we ended up with 3 roosters. Carl is a jerk and Louie and Eddie are pretty cool so far. Carl is going to freezer camp for sure, but depending on how loud (and/or annoying) Louie or Eddie get, one might get to stay. Neighbor who was so against us having chickens came over to see them and admitted that even standing right in front of the coop & run, that there is no smell at all. She has also evidently considered the advantage of having ten laying hens living next door. She now gives us empty 18 count egg cartons all the time so we are good there now. Also we've had so much produce from the garden this year we've had plenty to give away to anyone who walks by too slowly to escape

and she loves veg.